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    OzNerfNerd laser-cut LongShot boltsled reinforcement brackets

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    Post  clunk07 Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:15 am

    Description: Laser-cut LongShot boltsled reinforcement brackets
    Manufacturer: OzNerfNerd
    Where to buy: Ebay
    Link: http://myworld.ebay.com.au/oznerfnerd/
    Price: $5.60 AUD per set + $1 postage (combined shipping offered on multiple sets)
    Payment: PayPal and Bank Deposit
    Ships to: Australia, Singapore, Europe, Asia, United States, Canada, New Zealand


    Hi, in conjunction with my LS tutorial, I'm going to review the laser-cut boltsled brackets that I'm currently using. This is a picture of the brackets:

    OzNerfNerd laser-cut LongShot boltsled reinforcement brackets Longsh10

    As you can see from the picture, there are two different brackets, perfectly shaped to fit the different sides of the boltsled. They are fabricated to a very high standard of quality, made from 0.6mm aluminium sheeting, and are quite strong. Because they are laser-cut, you don't need to do any sanding or filing - just use 3-day cure epoxy adhesive to attach them to the specific side of the bolt-sled.

    When installed correctly, these brackets greatly increase the strength of the boltsled, and are a fraction of the price of a full aluminium boltsled. They have been designed to remove the need for some of the special tooling and materials that aren't readily available for young modders. This is similar method of reinforcement to Littlebro's aluminium lamination method, and may also be used in conjunction with TantumBull's coat-hanger procedure. While they are intended to prevent breakage, they may also be used to repair a broken boltsled - combined with coat-hanger reinforcement.

    To install, first you must identify which bracket fits which side of the boltsled. Next, roughen the surface of the boltsled where the bracket will sit, with some sandpaper. Clean the surface of the boltsled and the bracket. Attach using your preferred choice of strong-bonding epoxy adhesive, and clamp in place. Wait for adhesive to cure, and repeat on the other side.

    I used mini vise-grips to clamp the brackets in place, and glued the first bracket on at night. I was then able to remove the clamps, and attach the other side the next morning.

    Personally, I've used a set of these in a heavily modded LS commission (with stock LS spring, and BT V2 spring) which has had approximately 1000 rounds fired, with no issues so far. My personal dealings with the seller have been nothing short of fantastic. Very prompt service, quick postage, fast replies to e-mails and very good after-sales support.

    To summarise, the brackets are readily available, easy to purchase, and extremely cost-effective. No special tooling is required for installation, and they're ready to install straight out of the envelope.

    OzNerfNerd laser-cut LongShot boltsled reinforcement brackets Ls_bol11

    Cheers,


    (Photo's and technical data used with permission from owner)
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    Post  Mozart Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:23 pm

    Baring in miNd that I've never used an aluminium reinforcement process for a Longshot, I have to ask.. Is sticking A thin sheet of metal on it seriously going to do anything? Every time I seE or hear about one, it seems like it's just someone overcompensating. No offence, I'm open to the idea, because aluminium sleds aren't cheap! Just wanna hear some more about it.

    Cheers,
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    Edit: I put all the mistakes this god damned phone made in capitals. HTC Mozart. Worth it? Hell no.. Hahaa.
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    Post  littlebro05 Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:37 pm

    Of course it helps. Also look up "How to fix a Broken Longshot Boltsled" in the modification directory. You'll find that that piece of 'aluminium' sure helps a fark lot :). My boltsled hasn't broken with the big spring I put in there, where as many other people's have.

    It's really your choice whether you want to spend $100+ on a full alu boltsled, OR spend less than $5 to get the same effect.
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    Post  Silent Scope Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:43 pm

    I really don't see why people are skeptical about how two pieces of aluminium could help to prevent breakage. The strength properties of the aluminium combined with the glue allow to resist the tension forces at the L-point of the boltsled. And really, that's usually the major fail point in the part itself.
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    Post  Mozart Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:50 pm

    Yeah, I'm starting to see it.. Well, I've actually managed to get by without opening the three day epoxy I bought, so I don't know what the holding power of it is.

    Hey, it's five bucks. Worth getting, just to see if it works, at the least. I've heard nothing but good from people strapping these to their sled, so it must work. I guess I just keep seeing the glue failing and the stress being straight back on the plastic.
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    Post  RL Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:54 pm

    With sufficient epoxy and curing, the aluminium should act as if it were a part of the sled.
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    Post  clunk07 Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:17 pm

    I covered most of this in my LS tutorial, but for those who haven't read it, this is pretty much how it goes.

    For starter's, there's 2 ways of doing the lamination method. Using this product, or custom-making your own, and folding the edges over. Either method is going to save you some heartache down the track. For the small amount of coin, it's relatively good insurance.

    Once the epoxy has cured, the alu becomes a part of the sled. As for the epoxy failing, at the end of the day, it boils down to whether you use good quality adhesive, or cheap-shit alternatives.

    Obviously the alu's most structural properties is on the vertical axis, which is the direction that the sled tends to break most often. Similar method's are used with fish plates on cracked/broken chassis'.

    If you're that sceptical, spend the couple dollars, and trial it yourself. You could also perform the coat-hanger method on the outside of the sled, if you're that concerned.
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    Post  Echoes Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:18 pm

    Yeah I've been using these. They're pretty good, and easy to apply. Top stuff!
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    Post  Mozart Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:25 pm

    Yeah, I have Arildite (no clue how to spell that) which I guess will be top of the line. I remember my Dad telling me you could hold a house together with it I i was young, hahaa. I reckon I'll grab a few of these and do it, then. Cheers, guys.
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    Post  clunk07 Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:28 pm

    Mozart wrote:Yeah, I have Arildite (no clue how to spell that) which I guess will be top of the line. I remember my Dad telling me you could hold a house together with it I i was young, hahaa. I reckon I'll grab a few of these and do it, then. Cheers, guys.

    Just make sure the Araldte is the Super Strength version - full 72 hour cure.
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    Post  XOIIO Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:27 am

    littlebro05 wrote:Of course it helps. Also look up "How to fix a Broken Longshot Boltsled" in the modification directory. You'll find that that piece of 'aluminium' sure helps a fark lot :). My boltsled hasn't broken with the big spring I put in there, where as many other people's have.

    It's really your choice whether you want to spend $100+ on a full alu boltsled, OR spend less than $5 to get the same effect.


    $100 For a full aluminum bolt sled???!?!??

    Shit, I'm not getting one, thats crazy!
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    Post  littlebro05 Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:31 am

    Please let be this the last time you necro a thread. Thanks.

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