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    oxymoron

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    Internal Specifications Directory

    Post  oxymoron on Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:20 am

    I figured it would be useful to have as much detail on blaster internals as possible all collected into one thread.

    Below is a table of info I have collected already as well as a number of other direct plunger blasters I think would be worth having info on. It wouldn't hurt to include the reverse plunger blasters as well down the track.

    I was most interested in the plunger volume's as a way to gauge the potential air output from each blaster.

    Blaster Plunger draw length (mm) Plunger tube ID (mm) Plunger tube volume (mL) Spring Length (mm) Spring OD (mm) Spring Load (Kg) Seal Type
    Longshot 82 35 78.89 145 30 2.6 (stock) O-ring
    Tripleshot 70 OR 80 (8 clicks) 36.5 73.24 OR 83.70 (8 Clicks) 120 26 Skirt
    PAS 90 40 113.1 160 37 O-ring
    RFSG 95 33 81.25 137 27 Skirt
    Shadowhawk 133 27 76.15 175 18 O-ring
    Swarmfire
    Stampede 83 24.5 39.13 113 21 O-ring
    Nitefinder 45 24 20.357 83 22 O-Ring
    Wipeout 60 25 29.45 135 12.5 Skirt
    X-Shot Stealth 40 25 18.09 O-ring
    SGN-R3L 228 30 161.16 279 27 14 Rubber Washer
    SGN-R55L 228 55 541.67 279 27 14 Rubber washer
    SGN-PAR55M 152 55 361.11 178 14 Rubber washer
    Hyperfire DTB 40 21 13.85 80 18.5 O-ring
    Hand Cannon 80 36.5 83.70 135 33 7.5 Skirt



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    Re: Internal Specifications Directory

    Post  Xoenz on Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:25 am

    This would be extremely helpfully to most people. Thanks man!
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    Re: Internal Specifications Directory

    Post  Silent Scope on Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:40 am

    And sticky it shall be.

    I've also added some corrections there too.


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    Re: Internal Specifications Directory

    Post  Echoes on Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:47 am

    Loving it. Makes me want to get a PAS

    Edit: I also believe the firefly is a direct plunger blaster as well. It might be interesting to see what the volumes of that thing are. It'll probably determine why it can't compare to any other of the direct plunger blasters
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    Re: Internal Specifications Directory

    Post  238232 on Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:25 pm

    I like the looks of this. A lot.

    Query:

    oxymoron wrote:
    Blaster Plunger Tube Length (mm) Plunger tube ID (mm) Plunger tube volume (mL) Spring Length (mm) Spring OD (mm) Spring Load (Kg) Seal Type
    Tripleshot 80 36.5 83.70 OR 94.17 (9 Clicks) 120 26 Skirt

    If you're putting two values for the plunger tube volume would it also help to put the tube lengths for both volumes? I know that you can calculate backwards from the volume since you also know the ID, but it would help to clarify things.
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    Re: Internal Specifications Directory

    Post  oxymoron on Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:13 pm

    Info added for Stampede, Wipeout and Stealth.

    While the Stealth has a good sized plunger tube, its measly 40mm draw really let's it down. A draw extension would do wonders here.

    Everyone knows the Wipeout has great power. It's capable of 70ft with minimal mods. Goes to show how inefficient the Stampede is in comparison. Its plunger tube is 30% larger but the barrel setup can't make use of the power and limits you to similar range when modded. Makes me even more keen to work on a better breech system for it.




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    Re: Internal Specifications Directory

    Post  clunk07 on Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:38 pm

    Nice work Oxy
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    Re: Internal Specifications Directory

    Post  Echoes on Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:43 pm

    You might want to change the length of the stampede and wipeout springs. You've put them down in centimetres I think.
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    Re: Internal Specifications Directory

    Post  Mozart on Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:46 pm

    Stampede and Wipeout spring lengths, only half an inch? Is that the length of the draw, or spring? And either way, I'm sure the draw is longer than that? Lol.

    Sweet thread, Oxy!


    Edit: Just read Echoes' post again, realised I was just repeating it, sorry. Genuinely didn't understand, wasn't meaning to pick shit at it. Clearly, I have and clearly, I've upset people.


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    Re: Internal Specifications Directory

    Post  clunk07 on Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:53 pm

    This shits me. Somebody puts a heap of hard work in for the benefit of other's, and all he ends up with is people finding mistakes in his work. I've had it happen a shit-load to myself, and I'm f#cking over it.

    Use some courtesy people, how about sending the guy a PM, instead of plastering it all over a thread, and making it look cluttered...

    I like your work Oxy, and have the ability to recognise a decimal point in the wrong position, and move on and appreciate the contribution you've made. Thanks mate.

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    Re: Internal Specifications Directory

    Post  Psykka on Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:29 pm

    Better than people sitting there quietly and never letting someone know their mistake. I personally like constructive critisism of my work. Public or otherwise.


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    Re: Internal Specifications Directory

    Post  NachoTaco on Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:31 pm

    Well done, I'm sure this will help out a lot of people.
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    Re: Internal Specifications Directory

    Post  makeitgo on Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:43 pm

    I'm slightly disappointed in the RFSG plunger tube Diameter. My Man'spring may not fit in it.

    This is very awesome. I'm going to post this up on CanadianNerfers. Very informative. Credit to you course.


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    Re: Internal Specifications Directory

    Post  clunk07 on Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:44 pm

    Psykka wrote:Better than people sitting there quietly and never letting someone know their mistake. I personally like constructive critisism of my work. Public or otherwise.

    Yeh, I don't mind constructive criticism either - but that's pretty much all you get around here. In the real world, things like this (minor errors/discrepancies) tend to be discussed in private, if you have a decent boss/are a decent boss etc.

    It's a genrally accepted criteria for whether you're working with decent people, or clowns.

    Cheers,
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    Re: Internal Specifications Directory

    Post  oxymoron on Tue Jun 14, 2011 12:56 am

    1st post updated to include the SGN series blaster specs. Yes, I know they are home made's but I think it's worth having them to compare. How crazy is the R55L's volume
    I'd also like to include things like the Aussie +bow and the other more popular home made designs.

    Does anyone have a BBB and DTB they can measure?


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    Re: Internal Specifications Directory

    Post  clunk07 on Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:22 am

    Hey Oxy,

    I can do the BBB later on in the week, if that works for you...

    Cheers,
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    Re: Internal Specifications Directory

    Post  makeitgo on Tue Jun 14, 2011 2:49 am

    oxymoron wrote:1st post updated to include the SGN series blaster specs. Yes, I know they are home made's but I think it's worth having them to compare. How crazy is the R55L's volume
    I'd also like to include things like the Aussie +bow and the other more popular home made designs.

    Does anyone have a BBB and DTB they can measure?

    Okay, HyperFire DTB:

    plunger tube draw length - 40mm
    plunger tube ID - 21mm
    plunger tube volume - ~13.85 mL
    spring length - 80mm
    spring OD - 18.5mm
    spring load - ?
    seal - o-ring






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