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    Nite Finder Speed Loader

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    Mozart

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    Nite Finder Speed Loader

    Post  Mozart on Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:34 pm

    Nite Finder custom coupler and speed loader

    Pretty basic, but I'm bored.

    Nite Finder:
    Start off with your plunger tube, cut it back to the base, drill out the air restrictor and sand it nice and flat. Set it aside for now.

    Grab about an inch (25mm) of 20mm Conduit. Now, I'm sure this won't work with some brands of Conduit and to clear up, I use Keyplas Conduit. Make sure both ends of your Conduit are nice and flat, which will definitely help you later. Once you've done this, clean up the edges. Cleaning up the edges, giving them a slight aris, it just makes everything easier. On one end, take off a fair bit on the inside (when I say fair bit, I mean about half of the wall) and sand it out so it's nice and smooth. This will make loading your speed loader a lot faster and easier.





    Once you've done that and you're happy with it, drill a 2mm hole close to one end, about 1 - 1.5mm up. Take your time and make sure you get it nice and even, so the holes are as close to opposite as you can get them. To mark out the second hole, I actually turned the drill bit in my fingers, making it easier to line up the hole.





    Now, I used a nail for this. Make sure you cut both ends off. Being careful, as it'll get hot, cut a small amount of the tip off, then measure out how long you need it roughly and cut the other end. Once you've cut it, smooth off those edges nicely, so you don't cut yourself.





    Now test fit everything, make sure it's all nice.

    Speed Loader:
    The way I did this requires you to build the speed loader in the middle of modding the NF.

    This is insanely basic and I could really just write 'Glue two bits of pipe together', but I won't, because I'm bored.

    Measure out whatever you think is best for a barrel, I have a 4.5" and a 5" speed loader. Once you've cut them both with your pipe cutters (if you don't have pipe cutters and work with pipe a lot, get some. They're cheap and make life really easy)



    spend some time cleaning up those edges. Also, like you did with the coupler, take even more off the inside of one end of each piece. This will make loading darts a lot easier.





    Once you're happy with both pieces, stick one of the ends that you'll be loading darts into in your coupler. It doesn't have to bottom out, but push it in a fair way and make sure it's not going to fall out. Stick your other barrel, facing the opposite direction, onto the side of the first barrel, with the end touching the coupler.





    Now tape them together, just one piece of tape wide, at each end. Wrap a few layers around, so you know it's held together. Now take the coupler off, you may need to tap it off with a steel ruler or something. Lay the speed loader on a flat surface like a kitchen bench and press down on the four corners, so that the barrels are inline with each other.





    Now glue down the connection. This part is up to how sloppy or nice you want it to look, or you may want to add tape, so it won't matter. Leave it to set, or if you're impatient like me, place it in the freezer. Take it out, turn it over and repeat. Once both sides are cool, take the tape off and glue where the tape was. Add tape, paint it, draw on it, do whatever you like, that's finished.





    Nite Finder:
    Get out your three-day epoxy, or go buy some, mix it up and glue in the nail. This stuff stays pliable for a fair while, so don't try and rush. Once the nail is glued in, move on to your 'coupler'. Make sure all surfaces are clean from sanded plastic and what not, then put epoxy glue all around the end you've decided will be attached to the plunger tube (remember which end you smoothed the inside out, for the barrel) then some on the plunger tube as well. Place the two pieces together. This part is crucial, if you don't do it right, or haven't prepared your edges well enough, your barrel will not be straight and you either won't be able to aim properly, or you'll have to compensate, which sucks. Make sure the coupler and plunger tube are
    1) centered
    2) straight
    3) together





    If one of these is off, fix it. If you can't fix it, start again.

    Let that dry for at least three days. I tried to use mine after one day and it broke off, so don't get impatient.

    Once that's set aside, on a nice high shelf, or just somewhere where it won't be bumped, move on to the rest of the Nite Finder and do some basic Modifications. Minimize it, add a spring, work the seal a bit, though not too much, as you can't test fit into the plunger tube. Upgrade the catch spring, reinforce a little around the catch spring area. If you can't figure out how to do any of these things, give your blaster to someone else and pay them to do it for you.


    I really do apologise, as my photo quality here is extremely poor and no where near up to my usual standards. I also apologise as this is probably put together pretty poorly. I hope you can understand it.





    Finished product, the only picture I actually cared about, I guess. Didn't even pay enough attention to this one.. Whatever, this sucks, I don't care.

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    Genacon

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    Re: Nite Finder Speed Loader

    Post  Genacon on Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:40 pm

    Going back to basics is never a bad thing and the guide is just fine the way it is.

    I learned something new.

    So, Thank you.


    Reply to below comment
    2120 wrote:Damn some people here just wanna get their freaking post count up.

    I don't really see how this comment was warranted...


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    Re: Nite Finder Speed Loader

    Post  Mozart on Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:56 pm

    No worries, mate, glad I could help.
    Basic stuff is certainly better sometimes. Check out the inline clipped topic I posted not long ago. Very simple and yet I got 6 darts out in 10 seconds. Awesome, hahaa.
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    Re: Nite Finder Speed Loader

    Post  Luke on Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:46 am

    Great, Practical Modification
    Well Done.
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    Re: Nite Finder Speed Loader

    Post  RL on Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:43 am

    Damn some people here just wanna get their freaking post count up.

    Anyway, great job mozart. Just a few things though

    Did you have to do any cutting to the NF shell? It might be somewhere in the writeup, but I was mainly looking at the pictures to be honest! I just woke up hahaha.

    Secondly, I might consider that nail thingy on coupler mod, as well as the sanding down to ensure quicker reloads. Another thing I thought of, have you considered enlarging the hole in the plunger tube before gluing on the coupler to ensure better airflow?


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    Re: Nite Finder Speed Loader

    Post  Luke on Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:51 am

    One quick question what does the nail do?
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    Re: Nite Finder Speed Loader

    Post  Dietzie on Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:54 am

    The nail is to stop darts being pulled in to the plunger tube (vacuum loading)


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    Re: Nite Finder Speed Loader

    Post  Luke on Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:06 am

    Ok so its that good of a seal, WOW. Thanks
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    Re: Nite Finder Speed Loader

    Post  Mozart on Sun Jun 26, 2011 6:07 am

    Yeah, I've cut the shell. I minimized it, obviously. Just cut along the lines, then sand nice and smooth. A also sanded out the hole in the front of the shell to accept the 30mm Conduit.

    The nail is good, because it's a lot sturdier than a piece of wire. Also a lot thicker, so if you do try to vacuum load, it doesn't cut into the back of your darts as much. Remember to cut both ends off and take any sharp edges off.

    Yeah, Luke, this Nite Finder has a 100% seal.

    2120, Can you remove the first bit of your post please. You're probably right, but you were the first and only to post anything negative here. Thanks man.
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    Re: Nite Finder Speed Loader

    Post  clunk07 on Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:18 am

    If you're having issues with too much damage on the back of the dart, then maybe some heatshrink on the nail, or even nesting a piece of 1/2" brass or similar.

    I like the idea, but you did mention the slight damage. It's probably not an issue, but sharing is caring!! haha

    Cheers,
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    Re: Nite Finder Speed Loader

    Post  redcricket077 on Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:20 am

    Very Nice Mozart
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    Re: Nite Finder Speed Loader

    Post  Mozart on Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:54 am

    Yeah, Clunk, I think I was talking about my breech, which I also put a nail in. That damages darts because the barrel is too tight. Angel foam is too tight in 17/32".

    The nail doesn't damage any darts in this, mate. Thanks for the info, though! (:
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    Re: Nite Finder Speed Loader

    Post  Berge on Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:24 pm

    Does the conduit fit stefans well?
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    Re: Nite Finder Speed Loader

    Post  RL on Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:26 pm

    Depends what stefans you're talking about. The term is quite broad, I can't guarantee anything about your foam darts unless we bought it from the same place (either Hasbro's generic stuff or informer blue foam)
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    Re: Nite Finder Speed Loader

    Post  Berge on Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:34 pm

    I have 13mm stefans.
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    Re: Nite Finder Speed Loader

    Post  melbnerf619 on Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:51 pm

    Berge wrote:I have 13mm stefans.
    From?
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    Re: Nite Finder Speed Loader

    Post  Berge on Thu Aug 04, 2011 12:54 pm

    I got them from a guy in america.
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    Re: Nite Finder Speed Loader

    Post  melbnerf619 on Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:04 pm

    Can't help you there mate. You could try it. It'll only cost you petrol to get to a local Middy's
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    Re: Nite Finder Speed Loader

    Post  Berge on Thu Aug 04, 2011 2:24 pm

    Thanks I might try this weekend can only hope that it fits. I have tried 15mm but it is way too loose.
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    Re: Nite Finder Speed Loader

    Post  Mozart on Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:06 pm

    Of course it's loose in 15mm.. 15-13=2.. You should be able to work out why it's loose..? If your darts fit stock preeches and barrels, say they fit in a stock Nite Finder with that oeg removed, they'll probably fit. It's pretty cheap, conduit. Not a big investment.
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    Re: Nite Finder Speed Loader

    Post  Berge on Fri Aug 05, 2011 8:41 am

    OK I will try it over the weekend.
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    quick question

    Post  Dark Acer on Wed Aug 24, 2011 1:41 pm

    just an off topic question, what do you use for a size reduction mod on the nite finder
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    Re: Nite Finder Speed Loader

    Post  Mozart on Thu Aug 25, 2011 1:01 am

    It's called minimizing, bro, keep up with the loser lingo. (;

    To cut the front off and smooth it all up, I used a dremel. Hacksaw and files would work just as well, if you're patient. Probably better, ahah.

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