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    Post  Sicnut Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:27 am

    Here's my new primary until the full auto ROF issues are fixed in the rayven. It's had a complete rewire with heavier duty wiring, safety catch removal and rayven motors on the front. Later today I'll be making it mag fed and adding the removable barrel attachment piece

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    Post  camo1010 Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:38 am

    Daaammmmnnn! Very nice
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    Post  Sicnut Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:32 am

    Yeah still working on it but will be done this arvo. Also didn't mention it had variable voltage control from 3v to 15v running off 12v batteries soon to be 24v power supply when I get back to work.
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    Post  Jeo Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:25 am

    So two sets of flywheels? While cool, would only do bad things to performance I'd imagine.
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    Post  Sicnut Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:05 am

    Yeah not too sure on yet as I just finished the mag well and have yet to test fire lots of mags quill put up results when I'm finished
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    Post  Zandor Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:29 pm

    Two sets of flywheels... I can almost here it all the way from Tassie @_@
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    Post  sniperdude49 Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:30 pm

    Nice job


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    Post  camo1010 Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:41 pm

    Zandor wrote:Two sets of flywheels... I can almost here it all the way from Tassie @_@

    That is the unfortunate downside to flywheel blasters. They are as stealthy as a Boeing 747
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    Post  Sairex Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:31 pm

    sniperdude49 wrote:@Sincut: Isn't your profile picture a bit inappropriate?

    just him as a nazi zombie, don't see whats inappropriate.




    back to the matter at and, looks awesome dude, can't wait to see the finished thing and performance of 2 sets of flywheels
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    Post  Luke Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:44 pm

    sniperdude49 wrote:@Sincut: Isn't your profile picture a bit inappropriate?
    I don't believe so but I would leave it up to the Admins to decide that.
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    Post  clunk07 Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:49 pm

    sniperdude49 wrote:@Sincut: Isn't your profile picture a bit inappropriate?

    More Nerfing, less crying about profile pic's. I think it's a pretty impressive avatar anyway.

    Also, how about you try spelling peoples names correctly...

    Thank-you, please come again!!

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    Post  camo1010 Fri Mar 23, 2012 8:54 pm

    *clicks the "like" button*
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    Post  Sicnut Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:11 pm

    Yeah if my pic is inappropriate I'll pull it but yeah it is probably the coolest photo I have of me aye. Yeah the double flywheel setup is super noisy especially because I have upped the voltage. As for performance it's not as powerful as I hoped but I am using standard darts which I don't think have the mass to maintain the velocity at any range. Because at under 10m I can barely track the darts visually but they seem to loose speed fast after that. I'll put some photos up of the mag feed system which is almost finished I need to add some extra plastic to lock final mag position (which is very important to power I've found) when I get home but don't think I can put a barrel on it because aligning it is proving to be far too difficult. Any hints from anyone who's done any electric blasters to solve my problems? Also had to remove my DC/DC converter because it onky allows 1.5 amps through at any point in time and I think double motors now draw more that which is surprising. Either that or there is too much resistance in it. I won't know until I find my multi meter


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    Post  camo1010 Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:34 pm

    Are you going to put a cut out switch on it? So the motors only run when needed so it can be stealthy to a degree
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    Post  Sicnut Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:57 pm

    Yeah I have a switch so that the motors spool as you pull the trigger , but keeping the motors spooled at max speed all the time is proving hard. So I have 2 options, one being put a secondary trigger like the rayven or possibly putting the existing switch so it activates when I squeeze the grip. Still not decided yet but I'll get back on sometime today and post photos and my end decision.
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    Post  camo1010 Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:07 am

    Yea I would go with a set up like the raven. Other wise the flywheels wont get up enough speed and kill the performance
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    Post  Jeo Sat Mar 24, 2012 3:05 am

    Yeah sorry, I'm sticking with my previous logic until proved otherwise. The second set of flywheels won't be going any faster, so best you can hope for there is that they won't stuff up the flight path of the darts. More likely is that they'll hit it on even the slightest angle and then slow down. If they are going faster, why aren't the first set just going that fast?
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    Post  Sicnut Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:26 pm

    Yeah you do have a point. I will be using a single set of wheels in my next blaster which will be completely home made except for a shell. My current motors consist of the standard barricade motors with the rayven motors in front. They are currently spaced so that both motors act in the dart at the same time. This results in the torque of both motor complementing each other and also reduced spool times needed. Still fiddling a but with it but seems to be working well enough to justify making my homemade
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    Post  camo1010 Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:42 am

    Get 2x nitro RC car engines on it. It wouldn't be much louder than the standard haha
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    Post  RetfirDMX Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:01 am

    What about putting the second set of flywheels further than a dart's length past the first set of flywheels? that way if the flywheels don't run the same rpm, you wont be ripping your darts apart as they pass through both at once.


    also, if you have tons of patience, you could custom wind your own motors. i've been meaning to do it to my barricades' motors, but havent had the time with all my exams coming up. just a suggestion. and links to information about custom motor winds.

    How to patternwind an armature:
    http://www.xmodsource.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12999

    and a picture of the awesome motor cans that would fit: (theyr'e made by a company called atomic. product is the ball bearing motor can HE BB. miraclemart has these for 10USD per. rare earth magnets provide a LOT of torque, so wind your motors about 35-45 turns per pole for quick rpm.)
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    when i get a block of about 3 hours, i plan to do this to one of my barricades to achieve maybe 100,000RPM on each flywheel @ 11.1v.
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    Post  Sicnut Sun Mar 25, 2012 11:49 am

    Hmmm I'll think about that 100,000 rpm sounds very nice :). Well after the first war I have come to some conclusions. After a burnt out trigger I realised that my next blaster will have to be completely homemade barring possibly a shell. Also how awesome are air pump guns. Making myself one on Wednesday
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    Post  clunk07 Sun Mar 25, 2012 12:21 pm

    Sicnut wrote:Yeah I have a switch so that the motors spool as you pull the trigger , but keeping the motors spooled at max speed all the time is proving hard. So I have 2 options, one being put a secondary trigger like the rayven or possibly putting the existing switch so it activates when I squeeze the grip. Still not decided yet but I'll get back on sometime today and post photos and my end decision.

    Mate, if you're still considering options for activating the motor's, you could look at my mod guide where I've used a momentary-on switch in a Barricade. It works quite well. I've since changed it to a forward clicky-switch used in torches, but that's more so just a personal preference. Regardless, there's another 2 options for you to look at.

    Cheers,
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    Post  Sicnut Sun Mar 25, 2012 2:12 pm

    Yeah I think I've seen that tutorial and had that set up in mind. I'm seriously considering tearing the flywheel setup from that and mounting it as a wrist mounted weapon and hand feeding it with darts and adding a laser sight for aiming for my backup weapon instead of a pistol. With good training and maybe a charger clip setup I'm hoping to be able to replicate some form if rapid fire and hour it gets entered in pistol comps. If you're wondering why I want to scrap the barricade, it's because I've gotten annoyed with working in small scale, wasn't happy with the end product of my home made mag feed system so won't need the motors for anything else as I have plans for so much more power. But if I can have that range and power as a sidearm I'd be very happy. Also it would be so easy to do


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