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    Nerf Elite and how we're going to be screwed over

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    PhantomSambo

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    Nerf Elite and how we're going to be screwed over

    Post  PhantomSambo on Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:56 pm

    Hello OzNerf. I used to post a bit, but sort of went off Nerf in general and got out of the fandom a bit.

    Anyway, I was on facebook tonight - Look what comes up in my news feed.



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    We know that a few eagle-eyed members of Nerf Nation have spotted two different versions of the N-Strike Elite Retaliator blaster video we posted online earlier this week, and wanted to clear up any confusion. We pride ourselves on offering high-performance blasters that adhere to our own strict safety standards, as well as standards set by each country where Nerf blasters are available. It is for this reason that, while most of our fans internationally will be seeing up to 75 foot distances using the N-Strike Elite blasters, members of Nerf Nation located in Australia, New Zealand, Brazil, China and the Philippines will see a distance of up to 15 meters. N-Strike Elite blasters around the world will all feature Elite blaster styling, design and darts. We can’t wait to share more information with you, Nation, and may have some more details up our sleeves for next week. Stay tuned.

    (For those wondering, 75 Feet is 22.86m)

    How do you feel about this? I'm sure there will be simple mods around it and that it was clearly done for legal reasons, but to be rather honest I am annoyed by this.
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    Re: Nerf Elite and how we're going to be screwed over

    Post  TylerMaxwell on Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:45 am

    Pisses me off so bad, why not change the dart or something to hinder it by 20 feet? that really disappoints me.
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    Post  clunk07 on Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:41 am

    haha... I've had this conversation so many times on FB in the last 12 hours that my response is nearly ingrained in to my laptop screen...

    Firstly, I'd guess it would only be a bigger AR or a weaker spring to inhibit the ranges, as I'm sure Hasbro aren't going to go to the hassle of having 2 different moulds designed for internals. And, if this is the case, AR removal/spring replacement is pretty much what we do...

    Secondly, well, they're only RP's, so what's the big deal really? I'm sure I won't be crying if I can't get 75 feet heavily angled out of them... I'll just brass/spring a NF for $12 and be happy with that.

    Finally, doing a bulk import from a US retailer isn't exactly difficult, if you "must have" the more-powerful edition.


    Anyway, I thought most of us would be used to how our laws screw us over most days.

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    Re: Nerf Elite and how we're going to be screwed over

    Post  Jeo on Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:50 am

    Presumably just a more aggressive AR or lighter spring. Both things which are easily rectified.

    What I’m really interested in are the darts.
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    Re: Nerf Elite and how we're going to be screwed over

    Post  JacobYeah on Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:02 am

    Me thinks that I'm going to buy one from local stores, then import one from a faraway land.
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    Re: Nerf Elite and how we're going to be screwed over

    Post  grimrecka on Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:50 am

    I agree with both clunk and Jeo. It's most likely that the two things they do to reduce the range of the guns will be a more effective AR and or a weaker spring. In either case, dealing with those two things is something fair amount of us on this forum are professionals at.

    Regardless, it's preferable that they mess around with the guns as opposed to the darts, as it'll be much hard to 'fix' those.


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    Re: Nerf Elite and how we're going to be screwed over

    Post  cfb_rolley on Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:30 am

    My guess is that the elite blasters will be much more expensive than their ordinary counterparts, so unless you want the "COOL NEW ACCESSORIES AND COLOURS!", I wouldn't bother since if you have to mod it to reach 75 feet, you're better off saving money and modding the ordinary version blaster.
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    Re: Nerf Elite and how we're going to be screwed over

    Post  KingCam on Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:03 am

    I don' t like this one bit, why the hell can't we have a foam Blasters that can shot 75 ft, it the same as we are not allowed to buy r18+ video games in australia but in usa they can buy and play R18+ video games.
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    Post  |Shadow| on Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:13 am

    KingCam wrote:I don' t like this one bit, why the hell can't we have a foam Blasters that can shot 75 ft, it the same as we are not allowed to buy r18+ video games in australia but in usa they can buy and play R18+ video games.

    The Blaster part I dare say is because of our 'over the top' gun laws.
    Or some BS about kids hurting each other. Kids these days get there hands held way to much.

    And the 18+ game rating is a completely different topic that spews off in lots of 'WTF's'

    But yes both are just stupid really. : )
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    Re: Nerf Elite and how we're going to be screwed over

    Post  Arkham on Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:19 am

    What did you guys expect realy? come on?
    1 We have these laws becuase people are retards
    2.This is still a kids toy

    As for 18+ W.A about 6mths or more ago passed a 18+ classifcation so it a non issue.
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    Re: Nerf Elite and how we're going to be screwed over

    Post  ShadowSniper on Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:21 am

    I reckon I'm gonna get the Rampage/Retaliator, see how I like it and then possibly get the US version.
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    Re: Nerf Elite and how we're going to be screwed over

    Post  Luke on Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:25 am

    It will most likely be a bigger AR.
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    Re: Nerf Elite and how we're going to be screwed over

    Post  clunk07 on Tue May 15, 2012 10:46 am



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    Re: Nerf Elite and how we're going to be screwed over

    Post  Acerised on Tue May 15, 2012 10:54 am

    Bring back the Vintage Blasters. Like the Maxforce 2112, hypersight lines.

    Create unique and different blasters rather than 1st person shooter assault rifles, recons etc. They are all the same.

    Different and Unique! Break the Modern Day rules!

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    Re: Nerf Elite and how we're going to be screwed over

    Post  sniperdude49 on Tue May 15, 2012 10:54 am

    Looks good clunk cant wait till it come out in Oz!!
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    Re: Nerf Elite and how we're going to be screwed over

    Post  Jeo on Tue May 15, 2012 1:11 pm

    Didn't see that coming.

    Cool.
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    Re: Nerf Elite and how we're going to be screwed over

    Post  cfb_rolley on Tue May 15, 2012 2:25 pm

    neither did I, looks like there might be some room for modding. not sure if that's the 50ft or the 75ft model in those pics, but I do see an AR, so if it's the 75ft version I'd say they'd probably go to 100 feet with some work.
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    Post  NORTHENGHOST on Tue May 15, 2012 3:01 pm

    cfb_rolley wrote:neither did I, looks like there might be some room for modding. not sure if that's the 50ft or the 75ft model in those pics, but I do see an AR, so if it's the 75ft version I'd say they'd probably go to 100 feet with some work.

    100 ft. Recon/Raider sounds good

    Retaliator = Recon
    Rampage = Raider

    I'm assuming that they plan too use the same system in the Retaliator.
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    Post  ApoKalyptiK x on Tue May 15, 2012 3:18 pm

    Interested to see what dart compatibility will be like. Would be good if elite darts are interchangeable with the n-strike blasters and vice versa.
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    Post  Swatsonia on Tue May 15, 2012 4:39 pm

    They should be compatible. Over on the HvZ forums, they managed to get in contact with the guy who got the blasters early. All interchangeable, people. The darts make a big difference, apparently.
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    Post  cfb_rolley on Tue May 15, 2012 11:28 pm

    I wonder if informer darts will out perform these elite darts..
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    Post  littlebro05 on Wed May 16, 2012 6:16 am

    cfb_rolley wrote:I wonder if informer darts will out perform these elite darts..

    Even if inf0rm3r darts will perform the 'same'. The pricing will always kills Nerf. His darts are like $20-$23 per 100 premade. They're $12-$15 per 100 if you buy the raw materials and make velocity tag silicone darts yourself (cost will vary if bought in bulk).

    Elites will probably vary between $30-$35 pre made.

    You have $100. You can buy about 500-800 velocity tag silicone darts. You can buy about 250-300 'elite nerf darts'.

    I think we have a clear winner here.
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    Post  Echoes on Wed May 16, 2012 6:58 am

    littlebro05 wrote:
    cfb_rolley wrote:I wonder if informer darts will out perform these elite darts..

    Even if inf0rm3r darts will perform the 'same'. The pricing will always kills Nerf. His darts are like $20-$23 per 100 premade. They're $12-$15 per 100 if you buy the raw materials and make velocity tag silicone darts yourself (cost will vary if bought in bulk).

    Elites will probably vary between $30-$35 pre made.

    You have $100. You can buy about 500-800 velocity tag silicone darts. You can buy about 250-300 'elite nerf darts'.

    I think we have a clear winner here.

    While I'm a big supporter of Informer's products, you don't actually know how much Elite darts are going to cost. It might be slightly haphazard to make those kinds of calls. However I believe Informer's darts will remain superior.
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    Post  littlebro05 on Wed May 16, 2012 8:38 am

    I'm just going to go by the fact on how much they charge for streamlines right now. Averaging from $20-29 per hundred (even then, they've seemed to stop selling those 100 dart patches). And they perform horribly (unless you use whistlers). Nerf would probably have to make their prices cheaper if they want customers. I'm just sayin'.
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    Post  dandaldaks on Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:08 am

    <Censored> OFF NERF (excuse my french)
    But seriously why? I know gun laws are tighter than a homophobe's arsehole,but we are talking about toys here, it is not like we are going to hold up a bank with the 20 extra feet. This is outrageous!
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    Post  clunk07 on Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:01 pm

    Try doing a bit of research, before blowing your stack on an out of date thread. I think quite a large number of the NIC has already imported the Retaliator, Rampage and HailFire from Amazon.com, which are the US version. And, to be honest, they're not exactly that impressive that having reduced ranges on the OZ models is going to be an issue.

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    Post  dandaldaks on Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:04 pm

    clunk07 wrote:Try doing a bit of research, before blowing your stack on an out of date thread. I think quite a large number of the NIC has already imported the Retaliator, Rampage and HailFire from Amazon.com, which are the US version. And, to be honest, they're not exactly that impressive that having reduced ranges on the OZ models is going to be an issue.

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    Post  clunk07 on Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:05 pm

    dandaldaks wrote:
    Sorry for the necro my latest topics list didn't update from the last time I logged in which was a couple of months ago, sorry for my incompetence.

    Wasn't a necro mate.. you made the cut by about a month or so!! haha

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    Post  dandaldaks on Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:08 pm

    So I am in the clear then?
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    Post  clunk07 on Sun Aug 19, 2012 2:20 pm

    yeh mate, all good.

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    Post  Jeo on Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:08 am

    Anyone done the direct comparison with the Aus released stuff yet?
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    Post  Joey on Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:56 am

    Jeo wrote:Anyone done the direct comparison with the Aus released stuff yet?

    Is the Oz stuff out yet?


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    Post  DaftYoshi on Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:58 am

    Joey wrote:Is the Oz stuff out yet?

    I saw Hailfires at Target in Ballina.
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    Post  Jeo on Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:00 pm

    I thought there had been some sightings but maybe that was just the Hailfire as that's all I can find people talking about.

    My bad.

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