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    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven

    CRCL
    CRCL


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    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven Empty Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven

    Post  CRCL Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:21 am

    Aim:

    To 'fix' some of the major design and performance issues with the Nerf (Elite) Rayven, whilst impacting the appearance of the blaster as little as possible. Specifically the abysmal trigger pull and performance loss due to the 'barrel', plus some other minor issues. A motor replacement to pololu motors will also be performed.

    Things To Note:

    Many of these solutions have been adapted (or in some cases copied) from mods other people have performed upon their Rayvens. It would be pointless to list all the rayven mod guides I took inspiration or borrowed mods from, in short; if it's about improving the rayven's performance and on the internet; I read it and probably used part of it in this mod guide.

    Finally, I performed this mod in a slightly different order, so some of the pictures may seem a little 'off' timescale-wise, the guide was put in this order to simply make it easier to read.

    Materials:

    1x Nerf Rayven or Nerf Elite Rayven
    1x Century Spring Corp. C-25 utility extension spring
    2x Pololu #611 high-powered motors
    25mm UPVC thin-walled (grey) electrical conduit (could be substituted for 3/4" thinwalled PVC instead)
    A dremel
    A hot-glue gun
    A soldering iron
    Thick gauge wire (I used 3.8mm if memory serves)
    Etape
    Epoxy
    Superglue
    Solder
    Hot-glue sticks
    White lithium greese

    Tools:

    Dremel
    Pipe Cutter
    Various Screwdrivers
    Various knives (I used a hobby scalpel and a swiss army knife)

    Disassembly:

    Remove all the shell screws and open it up. Nearly all the screws seem to be the same, if memory serves the two in the tactical rail are a little shorter than the other screws. Remove the tactical rail spring and holder bit and try not to lose it.
    [Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0447_zpsce69d0e2
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0449_zpsd18a7df2
    Also remove the clip guide piece and put it aside somewhere safe.
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0450_zps63ecf2ef
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0451_zps53112e4c
    The clip release lever should also be removed and stored somewhere safe.
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0461_zps207666b8
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0462_zpsa65be4fa

    Original Circuit Removal:

    The first thing to do is remove all the electrical circuitry, including all the electronic locks. The only electronic part in the blaster that will not be removed is the motor switch located under the trigger. To remove the electronic components all you have to do is make the following cuts (I just used a pair of scissors):
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0452_zps517819b0
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0453_zpsee85c274
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0454_zpsc545a5e6
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0455_zpsb7d4c516
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0456_zps34bd8e36
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0457_zps689c1e0c
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0458_zps9733452f
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0459_zps4b2a3828
    Now all you have to do is yank out the wiring:
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0460_zps93d8caf8
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0466-1_zpsfef36c50
    These components can be thrown into your electronics scrap box:
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0467-1_zpsec02e449

    Manual Lock Removal:

    With the electronic locks removed only the two manual locks remain, the first one stops you from being able to pull the trigger whilst the flywheels aren't spinning, which is a good thing; So I left the first lock alone. The second lock, which is much less practical, stops you from being able to pull the trigger whilst no clip is loaded, and was easily removed with just a screwdriver:
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0468-1_zpsf8a68995
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0469-1_zpsd3311135
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0470-1_zps42d15187
    These components, again, go to the scrap box:
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0471-1_zps6a7586a4

    Fixing the Trigger:

    The first thing you need to do is mark the part of the shell, where the wire ('connecter wire') that connects the trigger to the dart pusher, passes under the flywheels. It's probably easier to see in the picture below. Then use a knife or scalpel or even a dremel to cut out a chunk of the shell at this spot. This is done because whenever you pull the trigger the 'connecter wire' rubs on this part of the shell causing friction and making the trigger pull slightly harder.
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0475-1_zps09898ce3
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0476-1_zpsec365f14
    Remove the dart-pusher from the shell. You do this by separating it from the trigger (a single screw connects them) and removing the plate that covers the dart pusher and forms part of the mag-well.
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0477-1_zps47ef7a5f
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0478-1_zpsd78b448a
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0479-1_zpsa6a73a38
    Next take the dart-pusher and slide the compression spring on it off; the spring can go into the scrap box. Lubricate the dart-pusher with some white lithium grease and put the dart pusher assembly back together (minus the extension spring).
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0481-1_zps03d9644b
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0482-1_zps8d2b98db
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0483_zpsdbb2bfbc
    Next you'll need to remove the 'flywheel assembly' and cut the shell as shown (I just used a knife, but a dremel would also work). Mine's a bit messy, but it's internal so it doesn't matter too much.
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0565_zps7dc0bbc1
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0566_zpse5f895be
    Now all you need to do is take your Century Spring Corp. C-25 utility extension spring and insert it as shown. It may seem odd to cut the shell to attach this spring, when there's a perfectly good screw-port nearby, but I experimented a bit and found this gave the smoothest trigger pull.
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0567_zps9b59a3c0
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0570_zps44f4de1e

    Replacing The Internal Barrel:

    For this part of the mod you'll need the faux barrel pipe and outer barrel piece. In newer models of the rayven the outer barrel piece seems to be glued to one side of the shell, so I had to cut and dremel a bit to remove it from the shell, luckily the damaged parts were going to be cut off anyway.
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0473-1_zps59a21982
    Once you've got your barrel piece separated, put the barrel tube aside and take your outer barrel piece. You're going to mark and cut the piece as shown, this is to allow a new wider barrel to be run through the outer barrel piece. You'll also have to grind out a ridge on the inside of the outer barrel piece.
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0511_zpsc28c370c
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0512_zps90a64cbd
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0513_zpsad1a2215
    Next get the faux barrel pipe, insert it into the blaster as shown and mark off where it protrudes from the flywheel assembly.
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0539_zps6187d758
    Now remove the faux barrel pipe, measure a further 20mm from the first mark and cut off a small 'nub' of the pipe.
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0541_zps13ec086d
    Wrap one end of the 'nub' of faux barrel pipe in etape until it will fit snuggly into your new barrel material (about 300mm of 25mm thin-walled UPVC pipe in my case).
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0543_zps48c40aa8
    Now, using epoxy glue, glue the 'nub' of faux barrel pipe into the new barrel leaving the originally marked off part of the faux barrel pipe protruding out from the new barrel.
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0544_zps7c25776f
    Test-fit the new barrel to see if it can fit through the outer barrel piece.
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0547_zps31544301
    Next we'll have to make a few shell modifications to accommodate the new barrel, these were done with a dremel with a sanding bit and have to be done to both sides of the shell.
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0548_zpscc078c9a
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0552_zps01c7491f
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0553_zpsc8fd28d5
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0549_zps1efb469a
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0551_zpsb8e8d8a6
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0554_zps37aa6392
    Now test fit the new barrel into the blaster and mark off where it protrudes from the outer barrel piece. Remove the barrel and cut it to length.
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0556_zpsde24d418
    Next wrap the end of the barrel in some etape until it fits snuggly into the outer barrel piece and use epoxy glue to glue it into the outer barrel piece.
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0562_zps69794c4d
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0563_zps20f6c7c2

    Swapping The Motors:

    In the interest of saving space and not cluttering this guide too much I'm not going to go into great detail how you take the old motors out of their housing and insert the new ones, mostly because it's very simple, but very long and tedious to explain. All the pictures for this part are available on my photobucket account, so you can go there to see all the pictures if you wish, but the gist of it is; This is what it looks like to begin with:
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0494-1_zpse1ceece4
    This is what I should look like after:
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0509_zps99bce421
    And these are scrap bin pieces:
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0506-1_zpsbf6a74e9

    Fixing The Clip Alignment:

    After reading a bunch of other Rayven mods and doing a few experiments of my own I learned that the rayven mag-well is not particularly well designed. Several people have noted that the magazine does not sit in the centre of the mag-well, but rather slightly to one side, causing problems when the darts enter the flywheels. An additional problem that I noticed whilst playing around with this is that elite clips don't seem to properly load into the mag-well. They don't seem to activate the clip release lever that holds the clips in place. The best way I've seen to fix these issues was done by torukmakto4 over at Nerf Mods and Reviews.
    Basically his solution was to glue a piece of plastic to part of the shell in the mag-well on an angle (this is the opposite shell half to the one we've been working on most of the guide). Basically this piece corresponds to a nub of plastic on the top of the nerf clips and acts as a ramp that centres the clip. I superglued a small piece of 1mm thick plasticard, but any other plastic will do.
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0572_zps13277eeb
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0573_zpscc293928
    After the piece was glued in place I reinforced it with a large amount of hot glue. This seemed to fix both the centring and elite clip issues.
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0575_zps837bf8fb

    The New Replacement Circuit:

    Again in the interest of space I'll Just put up this single image of my circuit. I feel it explains how and where everything is connected better than I ever could with text. As long as all your wires lead to the same things as mine you're good to go. As a note I did use etape to cover exposed joins, I just don't have a picture of it, but it is certainly important to eliminate the chance of short-circuits.
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0536_zps4b776a33
    At this stage the blaster is all finished. Close it up and you're good to go.
    Fixing the Nerf Rayven / Elite Rayven IMG_0571_zpse0d1d013

    Performance:

    With all these fixes finished you end up with a blaster that has the same performance as an equally modded stryfe. The ranges are good and the trigger pull is smooth and easy.

    That is all.
    Jeo
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    Post  Jeo Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:11 am

    Really good quality write up but can you please explain the point of the barrel replacement?
    CRCL
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    Post  CRCL Mon Apr 22, 2013 2:11 pm

    Jeo wrote:Really good quality write up but can you please explain the point of the barrel replacement?

    The Rayven's 'faux' barrel interferes with the blaster's performance. The theory is it reduces performance because darts ricochet off the inside of the barrel as they make there way through it, losing kinetic energy and hence range and accuracy.

    Essentially the thinking was; there must be a point at which a 'faux' barrel is so wide that it does not affect the performance of the blaster, because the barrel is too wide for ricochets to occur.

    There's probably some really complicated equation you could use to find this optimum width, but I just guestimated and it seemed to work, so I rolled with it. The new barrel's (from memory) ~200mm in length with a bore of ~21mm.

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