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    Post  inf0rm3r Tue Mar 08, 2011 5:25 am

    The tips are being finalised and are due in stock 1st April at latest.

    I am developing a lighter tip the same shape unless someone has a better idea. This tip will be designed for guns stock or AR removed only. The community seems to be split between two types of people, non modders and modders. So I will cater for both to grow them.

    Suggest serious ideas only, nothing in regards to sales and no useless posts. I aim to have these in at the same time or roughly near and back up why your suggested weight will improve the idea.

    Colour will be decided later.
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    Post  Joey Tue Mar 08, 2011 8:16 am

    If they are for stock guns then they should be stock weight IMHO.

    Also not that I care about the specific color but it should be obvious that they will be a different color to the 'heavy' sili's?


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    Post  Switchblade Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:37 am

    Joey wrote:If they are for stock guns then they should be stock weight IMHO.

    Also not that I care about the specific color but it should be obvious that they will be a different color to the 'heavy' sili's?
    I would suggest orange for the 'noob tips' but that might push the boundaries of copyright.
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    Post  inf0rm3r Tue Mar 08, 2011 2:52 pm

    @ joey if you've seen some of the sg darts around, lightweight seems to fly further. I haven't had a chance to see if anyone else has yet.

    @ switch, yeah I'm trying to avoid orange anything
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    Post  littlebro05 Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:00 pm

    It's logical that a lightweight dart will shoot further with a higher velocity. Just because it's 'lighter'. If you get the same Nerf Blaster with the same mods using lighter vs heavier darts. The lighter will shoot further, but is much more likely to fishtail. Where as the heavier one will fly slower, but have a lower chance to fishtail.
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    Post  thestick Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:22 pm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Momentum

    This should provide you with some light reading as to why heavier darts will go further in higher powered blasters.
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    Post  abowden Tue Mar 08, 2011 3:45 pm

    Heavier, they are in-acurate enough as it is.
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    Post  Switchblade Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:30 pm

    abowden wrote:Heavier, they are in-acurate enough as it is.
    Were talking about tips for stock blasters.

    I would say lighter, that seems to be a better option for stock blasters.
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    Post  abowden Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:12 pm

    I know that, stock darts are in-acurate with stock blasters.
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    Post  RL Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:50 pm

    abowden wrote:I know that, stock darts are in-acurate with stock blasters.

    Really?

    From my experiences when stock darts in stock blasters are accurate enough, the issue is that it's flaccid. It's already dying out when it comes out of the barrel.

    Modded blasters obviously produce more power, but if informer's foam is denser than the nerf ones, then i guess the tips don't need to be heavier than the streamline tips.
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    Post  littlebro05 Thu Mar 10, 2011 12:46 am

    I think the real problem here isn't the weight, but how the streamline is designed, and that is with the little air hole. Has anyone tried chopping the tip off without hot gluing modding it?
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    Post  taerkitty Thu Mar 10, 2011 1:55 am

    Are these as soft as Streamlines? I'd like to say 1.2g, like Streamlines, but if they aren't as soft, then for the non-modding crowd, they might not be as good as a lighter one.
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    Post  Dietzie Thu Mar 10, 2011 2:30 am

    After about 50 shots between a Sl and suction compaired to a SL with the tip removed (lighter) I noticed around a 2 foot reduction in range on the lighter dart and similar accuracy to a suction dart due to the lack of air hole ( assumed due to not having a wind tunnel to prove)
    My conclusion is go with matching/stock weight. The improvements will be in the tip design not the weight in stock blasters

    (Testing was done between modded LS, LSFG and Nightfinder. Will be testing again with stock blasters tonight if I can get a loan of some)


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    Post  littlebro05 Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:11 am

    taerkitty wrote:Are these as soft as Streamlines? I'd like to say 1.2g, like Streamlines, but if they aren't as soft, then for the non-modding crowd, they might not be as good as a lighter one.

    It's surprising what that extra 0.1g will do for a stock dart. They'll be solid silicone, but here's some food of thought...

    I've gotten samples for 1.8g silicone tip in a 2.3" blue foam (for stronger blasters) VS a plastic tipped snap cap dart (1.5g).

    We shot a 1.8g silicone tip dart at cardboard from a 1.5ft PETG'd Big Blast (1st gen tank) at an empty raider box and it left a dent. It didn't break cardboard (maybe the thin layer of the picture on the box).

    With the 1.5 gram snap cap dart, it shot through the cardboard and got stuck in between.

    With those results, 1.3g silicone tip will be solid, but it will be soft and not 'hurt'. That and they'll be accurate and work well in stock blasters :P. Presumably anyway....
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    Post  inf0rm3r Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:15 am

    Thanks Dietzie for a good contribution. I'll also be testing this later tonight with some other blasters to see if I can get the same results.


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