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    what's your favourite type of clip?

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    Post  abowden Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:30 pm

    The 50 dart drum (Hasbro just won't let me give up hope)
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    Post  dandaldaks Thu Apr 28, 2011 12:52 pm

    Lol what cave have you been sleeping under?
    They confirmed that is was a Pre-production idea 2-3 months ago.
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    Post  Brunius Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:00 pm

    dandaldaks wrote:Lol what cave have you been sleeping under?
    They confirmed that is was a Pre-production idea 2-3 months ago.

    Looks like they didn't announce it thoroughly enough. Heaps of people STILL think that this will come out.
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    Post  Mozart Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:08 pm

    Nope, I never heard that it wasn't coming out, not that I really care for it much. Still, they could have sold that on it's own and made a fortune off it. I expect it works something like an AK47 clip, with double stacked rounds, except there was going to just be two drums. Would have been cool.
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    Post  clunk07 Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:32 pm

    Alpha Trooper drum on brass-breeched LS - although I need more.

    Oh, and my clip-fed Titan breech. Just the 6-round clip though - no need to get too excited (And generally, the cat's don't hang around after the first 2 shots!! )
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    Post  Mozart Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:36 pm

    Doesn't it bother you, having the clip swinging around on your barrel? And what darts do you use in it?
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    Post  clunk07 Thu Apr 28, 2011 1:44 pm

    Mozart wrote:Doesn't it bother you, having the clip swinging around on your barrel? And what darts do you use in it?

    Because I've used a socket rather than the rocket post, the clip is fairly close to the barrel coupler. The fit is very firm, and the clip doesn't move much at all. I'm using heavily weighted blue foam snap-caps. 2.2g per dart approx.
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    Post  Mozart Thu Apr 28, 2011 2:56 pm

    Fair enough, man. I would hate the look of it more than anything, hahaa. Did you consider a hopper or RSCB for it?
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    Post  clunk07 Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:27 pm

    Mozart wrote:Fair enough, man. I would hate the look of it more than anything, hahaa. Did you consider a hopper or RSCB for it?

    There's a pic of it in the picture's only thread, from a few days ago. Have a look, it's really not that bad. I just like the modular aspect of it being clip-accepting. Although, this is only V1.0 - many more things in store for the Tian. Watch this space!! lol (well, not this exact space, but another thread within this cyber-space)
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    Post  watchadoin Thu Apr 28, 2011 3:52 pm

    AT drum thats all i need.
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    Post  Mozart Thu Apr 28, 2011 7:05 pm

    Yeah, I see what you mean, man, it looks pretty clean, really. I dunno, I think it just sticks out too much (for me to do it) I like the little handle you've made for the breach. Ohh, I meant the length of dart, too, do you use full streamline length? I reckon 1 1/2" darts are perfect length for more or less anything. Although, at 150'+ ranges, maybe 2" would be better? I really have no idea, though.
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    Post  clunk07 Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:36 pm

    Mozart wrote:Yeah, I see what you mean, man, it looks pretty clean, really. I dunno, I think it just sticks out too much (for me to do it) I like the little handle you've made for the breach. Ohh, I meant the length of dart, too, do you use full streamline length? I reckon 1 1/2" darts are perfect length for more or less anything. Although, at 150'+ ranges, maybe 2" would be better? I really have no idea, though.

    Streamline length - or whatever exact length Inf0rm3r's pre-cut blue foam is.
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    Post  Mozart Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:49 am

    Fair enough, have you tested your Titan with shorter darts? Could possibly get slightly better range, but probably not.
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    Post  mister_elliott Tue May 17, 2011 2:48 pm

    I've always wanted to try my hand at making a helical or double stacked clip for blue foam. I think it could work really well, but I am not brave or skilled enough.
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    Post  Mozart Tue May 17, 2011 2:51 pm

    What's that, man? Helical clip? Double stacked would mean like an AK clip, right? What the double drum would have been like?
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    Post  mister_elliott Tue May 17, 2011 3:04 pm

    See image. on the right is how N-strike clips work. On the left is how (with much chop) they could possibly be made to work. The most difficult part would be trial and erroring the point where the rd's go from the stacked position to the inline ready-to-feed position.

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    Helical mags are tough to explain, google that shit.
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    Post  Mozart Wed May 18, 2011 8:35 pm

    I think the only way this concept would work is to have two separate clips feeding into the same point. Just like the concept of the double drum that never came out.


    To back this up, look at it like this. Real gun magazines are well oiled before use. You can't very well oil foam. There would be too much friction from the foam against the wall of the clip/too much compression of the foam, squishing together, that it would jam more than it would fire properly. Don't you think?

    Can't be bothered searching it, I'll do it another time, lol.
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    Post  Rictus Thu May 19, 2011 2:55 am

    Just as a point of reference, you CAN pretty much oil foam. I use a silicone spray lubricant to store my brass guns when not in use, and that does not damage the foam. So, hypothetically, you could load the clip, then run a blast of spray inside, and that would lubricate pretty much everything internally.
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    Post  Mozart Thu May 19, 2011 3:50 am

    But bullet jackets are made of steel, I expect, no give. Foam gives very easily. I think they would just get squashed together and jam up.
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    Post  mister_elliott Thu May 19, 2011 9:33 am

    That's the problem with stacked boxes.. if it was doable someone would've made a massive gravity fed box hopper. Stacked mags (or even massive gatling hoppers) could definitely be made to work with brass shells, but that raise it's own problems. I'm thinking of venturing into homemade land so I might check into this.

    I still think helical mags would work with un shelled foam, but would require a massive build project for every mag, and blasters would need to be retrofitted for compatibility.
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    Post  oznerfnerd Sat May 21, 2011 6:22 am

    I like the straight 18 shot clips in my stampedes, and either the 18 or 35 drum in my alpha troopers.

    I have been thinking of the same idea as the diagram mr e posted, as this principle is used in real weapons often enough.

    A nice 30 shot straight clip in a maxed out stampede would be ideal.

    But yes, the squishiness of foam would probably hinder the feeding.

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