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    Post  mull Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:14 am

    Most Victorians may not be aware that the firearms law has been updated and enforced.
    Regardless if your blaster has got a bright orange tip, if it even looks like a gun, you will get in trouble.
    Be extremely aware of this, when applying your mods or giving your gun a paintjob.

    Make sure your blaster does not look like a gun to anyone.
    Anyone who turns up at a Nerf war with such items, will be harshly berated by other fellow Nerfers, especially war organisers.
    Still better than dealing with the police, who may come by and shut down the event, have your blasters confiscated and destroyed, and be whacked with a fine.

    Reference:
    http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content.asp?document_id=31899

    While this notice is about the revised Victorian state firearms law, please check with your relevant state/territory police websites, if there are any changes to the gun laws.

    General tips:

    • Use more of bright and non-threatening colours.[/li]
    • Avoid covering the majority of your blaster in colours associated with military equipment (shades of green, brown, black, etc.)[/li]
    • Metallic paints should not be used.

    Put yourself in a commoner's shoes.
    That blaster should look like a toy, from a glance tens of metres away, while taking a jog through the park.

    It is understandable that the bright orange tip clause no longer applies, because it's hard to see it from a distance, if it only covers a couple of centimetres of the barrel, while the rest of the toy could be completely black.

    Let me make this clear once again, and this will apply in all areas and not just Victoria:
    Make sure your blaster does not look like a gun to anyone.


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    Post  LostBoy Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:17 am

    Thanks for the heads-up man.
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    Post  redcricket077 Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:17 am

    Very Interesting. I also failed the recognition test in that pdf
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    Post  Luke Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:21 am

    Wow so no 1911 pistol from BT?
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    Post  redcricket077 Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:24 am

    It's basically just a heads up, there's probably tonnes of cheap remakes that haven't been printed.
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    Post  LostBoy Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:25 am

    mull wrote:Most Victorians may not be aware that the firearms law has been updated.
    Regardless if it's got an orange tip, if it even looks like a gun, you'll get in trouble.
    Be extremely aware of this, when applying your mods or giving your gun a paintjob.

    Looks like the toy guns (1:1 scale M4s, Steyr AUGs, M1911, etc.) that were available last year at a Melbourne anime convention, are now classified as an imitation firearms.

    http://www.police.vic.gov.au/content.asp?document_id=31899

    LOL.
    The Nerf Maverick is featured in the identification quick guide
    .



    So is a Longstrike painted black.

    But thats in a different thing.
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    Post  TooBz Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:25 am

    Oh well... Guess we will have to be more "creative" with our paint jobs, rather having a camo paint job.
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    Post  Luke Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:31 am

    Also a Recon Sniper
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    Post  littlebro05 Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:35 am

    Interesting. I was flipping through the 'examples'. A CLEAR Airsoft Gun appeared and it is classified as a toy. Wonder if anyone is game enough to purchase one :P.
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    Post  dandaldaks Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:38 am

    GAME!!!
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    Post  matt.chopper Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:39 am

    littlebro05 wrote:Interesting. I was flipping through the 'examples'. A CLEAR Airsoft Gun appeared and it is classified as a toy. Wonder if anyone is game enough to purchase one :P.

    I tried and had it seized. Don't try unless you want a black mark next to your name.
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    Post  Luke Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:40 am

    matt.chopper wrote:
    littlebro05 wrote:Interesting. I was flipping through the 'examples'. A CLEAR Airsoft Gun appeared and it is classified as a toy. Wonder if anyone is game enough to purchase one :P.

    I tried and had it seized. Don't try unless you want a black mark next to your name.
    Are you Serious?
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    Post  matt.chopper Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:41 am

    Yes. I got a letter from Victoria police to go with it.
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    Post  redcricket077 Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:42 am

    Was it directed at you Matt? Or just a general info letter?
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    Post  LostBoy Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:42 am

    matt.chopper wrote:
    littlebro05 wrote:Interesting. I was flipping through the 'examples'. A CLEAR Airsoft Gun appeared and it is classified as a toy. Wonder if anyone is game enough to purchase one :P.

    I tried and had it seized. Don't try unless you want a black mark next to your name


    Does that mean you have a record?
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    Post  Luke Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:43 am

    matt.chopper wrote:Yes. I got a letter from Victoria police to go with it.
    Wow did you get a fine?
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    Post  matt.chopper Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:44 am

    redcricket077 wrote:Was it directed at you Matt? Or just a general info letter?

    Just the general one.

    LostBoy wrote:
    matt.chopper wrote:
    littlebro05 wrote:Interesting. I was flipping through the 'examples'. A CLEAR Airsoft Gun appeared and it is classified as a toy. Wonder if anyone is game enough to purchase one :P.

    I tried and had it seized. Don't try unless you want a black mark next to your name

    Does that mean you have a record?

    Not a criminal record but they do know I tried to import something that's illegal.

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    matt.chopper wrote:Yes. I got a letter from Victoria police to go with it.
    Wow did you get a fine?

    No just a warning.
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    Post  Luke Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:46 am

    Did you get it into the Country or did they Confiscate it at the Border?
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    Post  dandaldaks Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:54 am

    In conclusion if you are in possesion of a bar of soap was in similar colours and shape to a gun, you have to have a license.

    So then you are LICENSED TO SCRUB!!! Seriously, I know little old ladies can be paranoid, but this...
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    Post  Eclipse Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:33 pm

    Thanks for the heads up. I guess this makes those little toy revolver cap guns illegal.

    Also, just wondering, does it say that long-arms are not banned? Did I read it right?
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    Post  redcricket077 Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:41 pm

    danerfdude wrote:Thanks for the heads up. I guess this makes those little toy revolver cap guns illegal.

    Also, just wondering, does it say that long-arms are not banned? Did I read it right?

    But they sell those cap guns in the Reject Shop :/
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    Post  238232 Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:43 pm

    danerfdude wrote:Thanks for the heads up. I guess this makes those little toy revolver cap guns illegal.

    Also, just wondering, does it say that long-arms are not banned? Did I read it right?

    Imitation longarms? Page 8 mentions something about an amnesty for imitation longarms and a prohibited weapons approval/exemption, so I figure they're also banned.
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    Post  Luke Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:44 pm

    redcricket077 wrote:
    danerfdude wrote:Thanks for the heads up. I guess this makes those little toy revolver cap guns illegal.

    Also, just wondering, does it say that long-arms are not banned? Did I read it right?

    But they sell those cap guns in the Reject Shop :/
    And milk bars and shops
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    Post  redcricket077 Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:45 pm

    If it's sold locally then there really shouldn't be a problem.
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    Post  Unknown Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:54 pm

    This part I found quite interesting.

    Can I make a toy look more realistic?

    Yes, however if the modifications make the toy resemble a working
    firearm
    , it could be considered to be an imitation firearm. In this case you
    will need either a Chief Commissioner’s Prohibited Weapons Approval or a
    Governor in Council Exemption.

    If it has colours on the stock and/or muzzle It's fine. In theory a black titan should be okay as it is not of the shape of a working firearm, add an orange tip and you are good to go.

    Further down the page there is information about what defines a toy, if it has one or more of the following characteristics it is considered a toy.

    • Material is not like that of a gun - clear/yellow

    • Coloured muzzle and/or butt

    • Is not a similar size/shape to that of a firearm.


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    Post  redcricket077 Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:56 pm

    I reckon just an orange tip won't be enough if the whole gun is black. Looking from a distance and all. However you are right unknown, those 3 criteria are easy to meet.
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    Post  clunk07 Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:57 pm

    Maybe the actual cops need to be re-schooled on this subject, and things would be fine.

    Cheers,
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    Post  Luke Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:58 pm

    Yes very Interesting
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    Post  Winterstrike Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:04 pm

    It wouldn't surprise me if most cops aren't even going to be aware of this change since most won't care. It's only something they'll use against you if they don't like you. Cops are people too, so if you're nice and friendly and are the kind of people they'd be glad to call a friend, you'll have no trouble. If you start going on about "I got the right to blah blah blah", get ready for the IRL banhammer.
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    Post  LostBoy Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:05 pm

    Im thinking about being a cop..


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    Post  Jeo Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:11 pm

    That's rather interesting. Good find!
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    Post  -mirsho Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:38 pm

    Wow, GG for my Doomsayer.
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    Post  Winterstrike Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:40 pm

    Wow, GG for my Doomsayer.

    Just start buying really friendly, kiddy colours. It's not over yet. Pinks, oranges, yellows and light greens should help you out. Out go blacks, reds, silver and dark blue. Sure it may not seem manly, but it's way less manly to have no gun at all.
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    Post  Dietzie Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:52 pm

    If I may just make a small point in regards to the comments in this topic, if we stick with calling them "balsters" rather than guns it may help our case should an unfortunate incident occur.


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    Post  RL Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:59 pm

    -mirsho wrote:Wow, GG for my Doomsayer.

    This law is relevant to Victoria, not NSW. This is venturing out to politics but isn't the newly-elected State government in NSW allying with the Shooters party?

    Did a bit of research.. haha look at this
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