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    Post  Nitefinder49 Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:13 pm

    Hi, just wondering if this was ok for a stefan. Any tips or advice would be appreciated

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    Post  Unknown Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:19 pm

    Looks pretty dodgy to me, not that mine were ever any better. Try snap caps or sili-tips - you'll save yourself hours of wasted time.
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    Post  Nitefinder49 Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:21 pm

    Yeah I know it looks pretty dodgy? What are the reasons? Because of the photo or it just looks plain dodgy or not good enough skill?
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    Post  clunk07 Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:24 pm

    Whilst the photo is a bit poor, it looks like your glue domes are fairly uneven and inconsistent. Don't stress, it's not an easy skill to learn.

    Like Unknown said, you'd be much better off using screwcaps/snap caps or sili tips. A lot quicker, and safer.

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    Post  Acerised Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:28 pm

    I personally use snap caps as they are faster and more efficient.
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    Post  Nitefinder49 Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:31 pm

    Well if I am selling them should I stick with snap caps or ordinary glue domes?

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    Post  Acerised Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:38 pm

    I recommend using snap caps, as i mentioned previously before, they are faster and more efficient to create.
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    Post  clunk07 Sat Mar 31, 2012 2:38 pm

    Nitefinder49 wrote:Well if I am selling them should I stick with snap caps or ordinary glue domes?

    Thanks

    If you're going to attempt to sell them, definitely use the snap caps. They'll look a lot more professional, and will be a lot safer. Two things that people will definitely look at before agreeing to purchase darts.

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    Post  Nitefinder49 Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:06 pm

    Thanks guys I'll take that into account. Your advice is really appreciated.
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    Post  Nitefinder49 Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:54 am

    Just wondering if you would even buy these darts, even though they look dodgy... If so how much would you spend?

    Thanks.
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    Post  Luke Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:18 am

    Look, the darts pictured are uneven and are therefore unsafe when the weight is exposed.
    If it was me I wouldn't be selling them like you are on ebay ( http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/30-Nerf-Stefan-Darts-Stock-Barrels-Modified-Custom-Made-Specially-designed-/180854061521?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item2a1bbdf9d1#ht_548wt_1392 ) until your skills improve, If you where to injure someone with these you may be liable.
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    Post  TylerMaxwell Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:27 am

    Luke wrote:Look, the darts pictured are uneven and are therefore unsafe when the weight is exposed.
    If it was me I wouldn't be selling them like you are on ebay ( http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/30-Nerf-Stefan-Darts-Stock-Barrels-Modified-Custom-Made-Specially-designed-/180854061521?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item2a1bbdf9d1#ht_548wt_1392 ) until your skills improve, If you where to injure someone with these you may be liable.

    Also, your price is a bit steep, you can buy 100 stingers for 20, or 50 stefans for 12. Both on eBay.
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    Post  killerbunny Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:27 am

    I think they will be hard to sell because your are competing with blue foam and sillies, which also work in stock guns.
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    Post  Nitefinder49 Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:35 am

    Look, the darts pictured are uneven and are therefore unsafe when the weight is exposed.
    If it was me I wouldn't be selling them like you are on ebay ( http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/30-Nerf-Stefan-Darts-Stock-Barrels-Modified-Custom-Made-Specially-designed-/180854061521?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item2a1bbdf9d1#ht_548wt_1392 ) until your skills improve, If you where to injure someone with these you may be liable.

    I didn't use fishing weights as weights by the way so it won't hurt as much as other traditional stefans.

    Luke wrote:
    Look, the darts pictured are uneven and are therefore unsafe when the weight is exposed.
    If it was me I wouldn't be selling them like you are on ebay ( http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/30-Nerf-Stefan-Darts-Stock-Barrels-Modified-Custom-Made-Specially-designed-/180854061521?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item2a1bbdf9d1#ht_548wt_1392 ) until your skills improve, If you where to injure someone with these you may be liable.


    Also, your price is a bit steep, you can buy 100 stingers for 20, or 50 stefans for 12. Both on eBay.

    So what price should I put it at to be more competitive?
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    Post  TylerMaxwell Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:36 am

    Nitefinder49 wrote:
    Look, the darts pictured are uneven and are therefore unsafe when the weight is exposed.
    If it was me I wouldn't be selling them like you are on ebay ( http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/30-Nerf-Stefan-Darts-Stock-Barrels-Modified-Custom-Made-Specially-designed-/180854061521?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item2a1bbdf9d1#ht_548wt_1392 ) until your skills improve, If you where to injure someone with these you may be liable.

    I didn't use fishing weights as weights by the way so it won't hurt as much as other traditional stefans.

    Luke wrote:
    Look, the darts pictured are uneven and are therefore unsafe when the weight is exposed.
    If it was me I wouldn't be selling them like you are on ebay ( http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/30-Nerf-Stefan-Darts-Stock-Barrels-Modified-Custom-Made-Specially-designed-/180854061521?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item2a1bbdf9d1#ht_548wt_1392 ) until your skills improve, If you where to injure someone with these you may be liable.


    Also, your price is a bit steep, you can buy 100 stingers for 20, or 50 stefans for 12. Both on eBay.

    So what price should I put it at to be more competitive?


    for 30 of those? I'd say maybe 5-7 dollars, but first take Luke's advice and re-make more safely.
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    Post  Nitefinder49 Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:38 am

    Thanks for the price evaluation. By the way I looked at the darts and they are totally sealed up and aren't exposed.
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    Post  Luke Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:12 am

    I would post more pictures first before selling them, from you first picture they appear unsafe.
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    Post  Nitefinder49 Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:13 am

    Nitefinder49 wrote:Thanks for the price evaluation. By the way I looked at the darts and they are totally sealed up and aren't exposed.

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    Here is a clearer image of the dart.
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    Post  clunk07 Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:58 pm

    Okay, so you're a young bloke, so I'll cut you a bit of slack.

    Hopefully you'll gain some good advice out of this thread, so I'll leave it unlocked, in the hope that we don't have another dart sales war flaming match....

    First up, work on your photography skills. I don't care if you're using a phone, compact zoom or digital slr, it's not difficult to get the main subject in focus. They say that a picture speaks a 1000 words. Your pic's thus far are saying "unprofessional". Take a bit of time, and get a couple of decent pic's together, before advertising your darts.

    Try standing the dart up, and use a contrasting colour underneath it. You could possibly use blu-tack, or sit the darts in some conduit/petg. Your foam is white, so use black or dk blue for the background/base. Take your picture in decent lighting - I've always found using natural light to be the best solution.

    Now, I'm not a pro-photographer, but I have the luxury of owning a fairly decent Nikon DSLR. I normally take about 40 photo's of each of my blaster's, at various angles, and use natural and artificial light sources. I'm currently in the process of building a portable display booth so I can get even better pic's. It's the attention to detail like this that will help you get a good reputation for your product. People lose interest very quickly with blurred/poor quality pic's.

    Secondly - I'd personally ditch the hot glue domes. As I mentioned earlier, it's an art-form in itself. Snapcaps are cheap, safer, make your darts look more uniform, and cuts your fabrication time by a considerable amount.

    Anyway, hopefully you'll take this advice on board. Remember, practice makes perfect, and taking pride in your work is a major plus.

    Good Luck.

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    Post  Nitefinder49 Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:20 pm

    Thanks for the advice cluck07. Really helped. I'll make sure to buy the snap caps.
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    Post  Nitefinder49 Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:08 pm

    Hey also, how much would it cost to post 50 stefan darts to anywhere in Australia. And is $5+$5 postage a good price for 50 darts because I find it quite tough.
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    Post  Nitefinder49 Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:06 am

    Is this ok for a stefan? 00110

    Here is a the front view of the darts....


    Here is the top view of the darts...

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    Post  sniperdude49 Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:07 am

    they look pretty bad:( no offense
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    Post  Nitefinder49 Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:12 am

    Well to say their pretty bad is kinda tough... Have you got any reasons to justify your statement?
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    Post  camo1010 Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:25 am

    How are you making them? Try buying some electrical conduit or something similar to stand the darts up in. This will make everything much easier.
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    Post  sniperdude49 Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:30 am

    they just look uneven and sloppy
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    Post  camo1010 Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:42 am

    Yea I would get a mitre box to cut them square at even lengths. Either that or you can get a piece of conduit cut to the size of the dart that you want, then you just put the foam in one end and cut it at the other
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    Post  Nitefinder49 Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:04 am

    Thanks for the advice guys. I'll try and get a mitre box. Do i have to make a cut in the mitre box though or is it already there? And would you buy these darts for $12 in total including postage?
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    Post  camo1010 Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:43 am

    No worries mate always happy to donate some knowledge.
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    Post  TylerMaxwell Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:51 am

    Nitefinder49 wrote:Well to say their pretty bad is kinda tough... Have you got any reasons to justify your statement?



    Some of them look bent and distorted, which happens, but they shouldn't be sent off like that, if you really want to start selling like Informer or Clunk07 in the sense that you have a regular supply of customers, then you should make 500, and be prepared to throw out a hundred or two, and then sell them cheap, and even then you won't be a guaranteed sale yet, also don't just sell 1 lot at a time, because if people are considering buying but need permission or to transfer funds etc or something like that having 1 listing up doesn't encourage them, it tells them that that listing may be gone soon. Also, your price has gone UP from 10 to 12, it's better if you just keep it 6 and 2 postage or something along those lines.
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    Post  Nitefinder49 Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:59 am

    Well the price increase ("decrease") was because previously it was $10+$6 postage but now i dropped it $4 to $12. Thanks for the advice!
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    Post  Nitefinder49 Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:14 am

    Hi guys just an update... I have 200 ready to go and am selling 50 for $12 including postage..

    Is that a good start? I will be uploading more photos shortly, just busy with school homework.
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    Post  WH1PLA5H Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:26 am

    It all depends on the quality of the bullets being made. Post up some quality pics of them, ready for postage / packaging and let us have a look.
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    Post  Nitefinder49 Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:55 am

    Here, take a look.

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    Hope you guys enjoy looking at them... And please give any feedback, good or bad.
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    Post  WH1PLA5H Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:05 pm

    Ok, Feedback, this will probably come off harsher then its meant, i appologise now.

    NO, I would not buy them, not even for half the price, for a few reasons

    - They are bent
    - They are un even cuts
    - They are un even lengths

    Surely its not that hard to cut them all square and to the same length and not bend them all out of shape?

    What are you cutting them with? A stanley knife or kitchen knife thats blunt? A half decent pair of scissors would be the best, get a 15mm length of Riser Pipe, or some sort of PVC pipe, cut it to the length you want your darts, then stand it up on the bench, cut length, rise, repeat!

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