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    Handmade dual-blaster shotgun?

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    Post  Kinetic Waffle Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:39 pm

    Hey guys, was just having a think in my quiet time, and I was wondering... does anybody think it would be possible to make a double-gun nerf longshot? It would obviously require a LOT of work, two nerf longshots, something to connect both the firing bolts, probably many re-enforcements on the trigger/priming mechanisms, possibly a shotgun under-segment... maybe even an improvised shell in between them to save space. It's one of the flattest guns I've seen, but I'd be very uncertain about connecting two trigger mechanisms to one singular trigger. Probably the hardest part, aside from making a workable priming mechanism.

    As the front of the longshot is mostly just plastic fluff around the main barrel, I'm thinking a fairly aggressive cutback on that region could be done to reduce bulk and give it a more shotgun-like double barrel'd end end. Thoughts, suggestions, criticisms? If you think a different blaster would be cooler/do the job better, I'm all ears. If you've got an idea, throw it out there!
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    Post  Silent Scope Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:40 pm

    There's only one bit of critism I usually have. Whilst not stipulated in our rules, I don't fare well with concept threads that don't go beyond an actually physical stage of an attepmt.

    Also, I think you need to look up what Ungodlyfreak has done with his double Alpha Troopers. Now that's effort I can apprieciate...
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    Post  Kinetic Waffle Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:07 am

    Well, I'm not really sure how to start figuring out stuff without this post.. Will look up the dual akphas, though, cheers.
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    Post  abowden Sun Aug 14, 2011 2:04 am

    Do you want it to be clip system, because if you don't a better result could be obtained with modified hand cannon internals.
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    Post  Kinetic Waffle Sun Aug 14, 2011 7:43 am

    How do you mean? Such as clipping two nightfinders together?
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    Post  Brunius Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:00 am

    He means still use the clip system clips - 6-shot clips, 18-shot clips, etc.
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    Post  bulletproofvest Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:02 am

    Kinetic Waffle wrote:How do you mean? Such as clipping two nightfinders together?
    He means clips as in nerf magazines
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    Post  Kinetic Waffle Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:19 pm

    Yeah, I was definitely going to do a clip system. I was just wondering what alternatives there might be, and what guns you folks might recommend for a different base of this project? Anyone know how I might make a dual gun priming pump action handle?
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    Post  Luke Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:29 pm

    Stampede,Swarmfire,Barricade are my suggestions as it make the process simpler.

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    Post  clunk07 Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:45 pm

    Kinetic Waffle wrote:Yeah, I was definitely going to do a clip system. I was just wondering what alternatives there might be, and what guns you folks might recommend for a different base of this project? Anyone know how I might make a dual gun priming pump action handle?

    It'd be fairly simple to link 2 x Alpha Trooper's together. Just depends on how much range you're hoping to achieve...

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    Post  Kinetic Waffle Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:46 pm

    clunk07 wrote:
    Kinetic Waffle wrote:Yeah, I was definitely going to do a clip system. I was just wondering what alternatives there might be, and what guns you folks might recommend for a different base of this project? Anyone know how I might make a dual gun priming pump action handle?

    It'd be fairly simple to link 2 x Alpha Trooper's together. Just depends on how much range you're hoping to achieve...

    Cheers,

    Yeah, but two alpha troopers isn't nearly as awesome as two longshots...
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    Post  clunk07 Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:49 pm

    You could probably fabricate a dual pump action grip priming system - all depends on your spring set-up. I wouldn't like to be priming 2 x BTV2 springs at the same time, even without the stock springs added.

    And, if you're only using the stock springs, you'd probably be in the same boat as an AT - range wise anyway.

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    Post  Kinetic Waffle Sun Aug 14, 2011 3:57 pm

    Hmm. Fair point... food for thought.
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    Post  clunk07 Sun Aug 14, 2011 4:00 pm

    Yeh, don't get me wrong, not dismissing the project at all.

    Just something to consider when working on an attainable range...

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    Post  Akimbo Assassin Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:01 pm

    clunk07 wrote:I wouldn't like to be priming 2 x BTV2 springs at the same time, even without the stock springs added.

    Yep, is Kinetic Waffle planning to build forearm muscles as big as Popeye? Or all these ideas just in the name of bigger e-penis?
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    Post  clunk07 Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:34 pm

    Akimbo Assassin wrote:
    clunk07 wrote:I wouldn't like to be priming 2 x BTV2 springs at the same time, even without the stock springs added.

    Yep, is Kinetic Waffle planning to build forearm muscles as big as Popeye? Or all these ideas just in the name of bigger e-penis?

    No, not at all. KW is genuine, and has a keen interest in original blaster's/mod's. I can attribut to his professionalism when he commissioned the Stampede off of me. He knew what he wanted - and could see the project in his head, yet was sensible enough to not be unrealistic with his requests.

    I figure alot of people wouldn't have considered the issues with priming double LShot's. I know I probably would've missed it, except I've recently torn my forearm due to an unfortunate incident whilst priming a LongShot, so it's an issue that comes to mind rather quickly at present

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    Post  Kinetic Waffle Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:59 pm

    clunk07 wrote:
    Akimbo Assassin wrote:
    clunk07 wrote:I wouldn't like to be priming 2 x BTV2 springs at the same time, even without the stock springs added.

    Yep, is Kinetic Waffle planning to build forearm muscles as big as Popeye? Or all these ideas just in the name of bigger e-penis?

    No, not at all. KW is genuine, and has a keen interest in original blaster's/mod's. I can attribut to his professionalism when he commissioned the Stampede off of me. He knew what he wanted - and could see the project in his head, yet was sensible enough to not be unrealistic with his requests.

    I figure alot of people wouldn't have considered the issues with priming double LShot's. I know I probably would've missed it, except I've recently torn my forearm due to an unfortunate incident whilst priming a LongShot, so it's an issue that comes to mind rather quickly at present

    I'm unsure as to how much Spinach he eats though!!


    Cheers,

    I'm probably going to do a mid-range mod on the longshot's distance. Get it better than your average longshot, but not go too insane with it. Still want it in usable range for a war, so hence my consideration for longshots over alpha troopers, as well as the reduced width (once you merge the priming mechanisms and remove one of the shells).

    I could probably prime them, but for the situation I'd be in, I'd want it fast, not powerful, given a zombie-eating-my-face situation requires quick reload if you miss.

    Still, a large quantity of the value is in the aesthetics. The dual alpha troopers are cool, but two longshots could be made to look wicked. And didn't you know, n0W yOu c@n incr33se the s1ze of y0u4 e-p33n by 200% with POPEYE'S PATENTED SPINACH PILLS! "I thought it was good when that bulk went to my arms, but oh boy was I surprised!"
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    Post  clunk07 Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:06 pm

    You could keep the stock LS spring, and brass breech it, which should give you a half-decent HVZ range hopefully. I'm unsure as to what other stock springs will fit without adding crazy load, but I can look in to it.

    The biggest issue I can see is that the boltsled is virtually the same width as the shell, so there's going to be a fair amount of work in getting 2 x internals to fit in to one shell.

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    Post  Kinetic Waffle Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:34 pm

    clunk07 wrote:You could keep the stock LS spring, and brass breech it, which should give you a half-decent HVZ range hopefully. I'm unsure as to what other stock springs will fit without adding crazy load, but I can look in to it.

    The biggest issue I can see is that the boltsled is virtually the same width as the shell, so there's going to be a fair amount of work in getting 2 x internals to fit in to one shell.

    Cheers,

    That may have come across wrong- don't want to fit it all in one shell. Want to take off one side of one of the blasters and stick it onto the other one, removing a while side of it.
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    Post  mull Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:23 pm

    I can sort of see what you want.

    I'll assume that the boltsleds will attached side by side, probably by filing one of the sides of each boltseld flat and gluing them together with epoxy or JB Weld.

    The obvious issue I can see here is, how to release the magazine lock of the left blaster, as the Longshot's magazine lock release is only on the right hand side.
    Plus, you will be able to use drums on left blaster, but not on the right blaster, if the left one is loaded.

    Double trigger or dual shot?
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    Post  clunk07 Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:55 pm

    Magazine catch shouldn't be too much of an issue to link together.

    18-round clips would work fine, with a bit of work, you could join them up with spacer's and some JB weld.

    Interested too in hearing if it will be single/dual trigger...

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    Post  Kinetic Waffle Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:19 pm

    Was making inquiries about the "Twins" dual alpha troopers and their single trigger design, that's probably what I'll be going for.
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    Post  Luke Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:54 am

    Add a Nitefinder spring.

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