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    Post  O.W.L Sat Apr 24, 2010 5:17 am

    Hello oznerf i have a question about longshots
    I have been wondering what i could do to make my ls hit decent ranges at the moment it is hitting
    50+feet with a NF spring and removed ars?
    PS I'm on my iPod touch
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    Post  Sniperguy Sat Apr 24, 2010 5:41 am

    dunni I've been wondering also how to make it go further..
    Also what's an AR?
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    Post  WV17 Sat Apr 24, 2010 5:46 am

    offtopic i know but... sniper?guy on a nerf forum.....

    otherwise for the longshot ranges, take out AR's, create a better seal on the plunger head however you like, brass of other material breech, extra spring so on so forth. IF you REALY want good ranges your gonna have to sacrifice the clip..
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    Post  Sniperguy Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:02 am

    WV17 wrote:offtopic i know but... sniper?guy on a nerf forum.....

    otherwise for the longshot ranges, take out AR's, create a better seal on the plunger head however you like, brass of other material breech, extra spring so on so forth. IF you REALY want good ranges your gonna have to sacrifice the clip..
    what do you mean '' in a nerf fourm''? Elabourate please..

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    Post  O.W.L Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:40 am

    If been using streamlines only and dont angel breached longshots get 70 to 90 feet anyway?
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    Post  Biggles Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:47 am

    Well Angel Breeched longshots acheive ranges of around 110-120ft.

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    Post  splosionman Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:12 am

    biggles wrote:Well Angel Breeched longshots acheive ranges of around 110-120ft.

    Biggles

    I'm pretty sure that I told you that. Thats a little miss-leading, as they only hit that kind of range with an extra spring and seal improvement.

    And some luck.
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    Post  Biggles Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:32 am

    splosionman wrote:
    biggles wrote:Well Angel Breeched longshots acheive ranges of around 110-120ft.

    Biggles

    I'm pretty sure that I told you that. Thats a little miss-leading, as they only hit that kind of range with an extra spring and seal improvement.

    And some luck.

    mmm, luck.

    back on-topic it is a little miss leading.

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    Post  -Aj- Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:39 am

    The average angel breech hits about 90'.

    What almost every breech design fails to address is the air loss that happens between the plungertube front and the breech, where that small o-ring is. I've tried almost everything and air still loves to leak out of that little place. To me, this is one area where reverse plunger guns are superior as they suffer no such problem, but then they suffer from far too many other ones such as deadspace etc.

    Even angel's breech was maxing out at around 104', and please keep in mind this is with heavier darts. It is a massive struggle to get the fishing weighted darts we use over around 95'.

    One thing i am really curious about is ice's singled design, he glues a coupler onto the black bit at the end of the breech (where they air loss generally occurs) and his breech is airtight, the plunger stops when he puts his had over the barrel, but he's never elaborated how he got that back seal so good and his pictures are shit. Also putting a coupler in there to me indicates it would reduce plunger strong so I'm even more confused..

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    Post  CobraNerf Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:59 am

    -Aj- wrote:but he's never elaborated how he got that back seal so good and his pictures are shit. Also putting a coupler in there to me indicates it would reduce plunger strong so I'm even more confused..
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    Post  -Aj- Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:06 am

    I looked at it some more, he's totally replaced that bit with a 3/4 coupler wrapped in e-tape... would make a lot of initial resistance to the priming stroke but it sees to work for him...

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    Post  O.W.L Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:28 am

    soooo is it it worth trying anything or should i go get a triple shot and quad that or coupler it?
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    Post  liam_skywalker Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:36 am

    AR's are air restrictors.
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    Post  -Aj- Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:05 pm

    Get a c-386 spring from bunnings, remove the stock and NF springs, replace with just the c-386 and a small (3 coils I think) of a mav or similarly weak spring so that it doesn't rattle around. Use some e-tape to make the plunger seal better (2 wraps is good) but you need to cut the e-tape so it sits only in the groove for the o-ring, not over the sides (it will cause too much friction then). Using this kind of setup I have a longshot getting 70-80 with a stock breech, but it can get as low as 50-60 if the darts are too loose in the breech.

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    Post  O.W.L Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:59 pm

    so i use a coat hanger to reinforce the breach go to bunnings get a c-386 spring and use my spare mav spring to stop it rattling around got ya
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    Post  Winterstrike Mon Apr 26, 2010 2:49 am

    FFS, it's a C-836, EIGHT THREE SIX. You sent me on a wild goose chase the last time and now you're doing it to this poor SOB. I will warn you that it's going to be hard to find the springs as I hunted around all the Bunnings in a 20km radius around me and cleaned them out of these C-836's. Mind you, there were only about 4 total and I've used some in my Nitefinders. I still have 2 left I keep as spares but you're welcome to have them for $6. Yes, I'm making 7 cents profit.

    Oh, and I'm only selling to you on one condition, that you actually turn up to a war and buy it from me there. Not going to sell to backyard warriors who never turn up to wars.
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    Post  O.W.L Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:06 am

    I FOUND ONE MWUHAHAHAHA
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    Post  O.W.L Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:08 am

    oh by the way im almost ready for a nerf war
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    Post  splosionman Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:13 am

    *static*We need an admin over here ASAP*static*
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    Post  O.W.L Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:38 am

    *static*????
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    Post  Biggles Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:51 am

    splosionman wrote:*static*We need an admin over here ASAP*static*

    Sigged!

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