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    Screw caps as dart heads - pros and cons

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    Post  -Aj- Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:21 pm

    So after experimenting with screw caps I have one major problem - they are too big. They will NOT fit in 16mm conduit, they will NOT fit in 17/32 brass, they fit with definite drag added to the dart in PETG

    So my question is how do all you QLD guys who use PETG and blue foam use these? I really like the ease of construction and the consistency but they are only really useful on white foam as far as I can tell, they are too large to be used in barrel that are the most effective with blue foam.

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    Post  jacko1120 Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:33 pm

    The 3 that i have work really well in stock barrels such as my Mav, LS and Recon.
    As for Petg they are a tight fit but in Springers it dosent seem to be to much of an issue.
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    Post  littlebro05 Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:38 am

    Actually, snaps caps fit in PETG very well. There doesn't seem to be a difference in range either comparing it with a big blast. I've used dome glue vs snap caps and they shoot particularly well.

    Also, those screw caps from what I heard fit in 9/16" brass K&S perfectly well too.

    But unfortunately, 16mm conduit do not fit these. However you can actually buy 6G snap caps to which are some what smaller but I haven't actually seen how small.
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    Post  phuonguyen Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:27 am

    In regards to the petg, I find that my snap caps work very well, they slide in fairly easily and there's a slight movement of the caps in the petg.

    For brass, the caps fit 9/16 and bigger (my NF is brassed with 17/32 and it doesnt fit at all.)

    Aj, if you went out and grabbed a bag of caps off the shelves of your hardware store, I'd say they're not the right one.... However, I reckon they'r the one that Informer probs threw in with the foam and petg that you ordered.

    That said, if it's the latter, I really don't know why they shouldn't fit the petg, cause they're the caps I scabbed of Thanh, to help make some darts.

    For Brisbane nerfers I would also recommend using 9/16 brass or petg instead of the tighter 17/32 if you use the blue.
    Simply, in my experience, the snap caps, which will most likely tip the darts, fit inside the petg and brass. The barrel material isn't the easiest to find and acquire, as opposed to 16mm conduit, but it is worth it in the end.
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    Post  inf0rm3r Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:35 am

    The normal sized snap caps will fit fine in anything except hep20 from what I have seen. With hep20 you might have to use the next diameter down.

    From what I've seen the next size down is only available at specialist stores, bunnings won't stock anything even close. I am looking in to get a custom tip made soon, now that I have a healthy tax return coming. This will also include a small stub not as long as the streamline of course and be weighted heavier to phase out the BB's.

    On some pieces of foam which have been slightly squashed I will actually put more glue in on purpose to seep out the sides and then with my fingers even this out. This only works with a low temp gun and it's absolutely vital to have perfection on positioning.
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    Post  inf0rm3r Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:55 am

    I have just called my friend who I get these from and he's informed me they are available in quite a number of colours.

    Red's, blue's, green's, black, brown, purple, pink, white's, cream's.

    They are available in two sizes 1/2" which is to big and 8/8 8mm. I believe the 8mm one is the one which will suit any size issues people are having in hep20.

    Due to the variety of colours, this also means people at wars can have exclusive colours. I'm getting samples of these soon, as for snap caps and screws caps I'm not entirely sure what the official name is as every time I go in there there's a number of terms used.
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    Post  -Aj- Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:18 am

    Yeah, see when you guys talk about it fitting LS's, thats with the stock breech so the tip of the dart barely goes into any tubing at all. After some more experimentation the do fit in PETG, but mine still show drag compared to hot glue heads - these are the screw caps informer sent me with the PETG.

    Using PETG of especially 9/16th will produce sub-par results with blue foam, especially on springers. PETG is ok for airguns, but you need conduit or 17/32 for springers if you want to get decent ranges.

    8mm caps sound cool, though I wonder if we should combine them with a felt pad as welll to minimise impact pain.

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    Post  inf0rm3r Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:32 am

    Just been looking into the 8mm option more, turns out the 8mm is apparently the screw head size it will fit, so the actual OD might be closer to 9-9.5mm which suites us even better.

    I've ordered samples of a number of colours and also something called a hex cap which seems to be heavier and thicker on the inside.

    Felt pad is a good idea, although I've only been able to find these from Mcmaster which I can't purchase from without a third party shipper which will make it expensive and defeat the purpose of cheap darts. To give you an idea on price, the 8mm caps are worth 0.5cents a piece which is amazingly cheap, of course I have to buy a ridiculous amount to get this price but we can deal with that if the 8mm is suitable, it is also much cheaper than customer producing a custom tip even in China. This means we are producing darts at roughly 0.8cents or 0.12 with a bb which is hell better than 0.40 for a Hasbro dart or 0.20 - 0.25 for a glue dart.

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    Post  littlebro05 Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:34 am

    Hey Inf0rm3r. Have you ever thought about doing 'colour codes' commissions? For example...

    Black - Ipswich
    White - Darra
    Red - Redcliffe
    Blue - Gold Coast
    Green - Sunshine Coast

    Just as an example so we can more easily distinguish the colours from each other. That would be awesome. Commission like about 300 darts per suburb (depending on population). Bring them on the day and BANG. done.
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    Post  Khail Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:48 am

    It sounds like Inf0rm3r’s snap caps come in 12.7 and 8mm diameter with a variety of colours at $17.00 for a bag of 1000. These diameters appear to be causing some issues, so can I suggest a change in distributer.

    I recently found a Snap cap distributer with 4 sizes, 9.7, 11.1, 13.1 and 16.1 and 98 colours at $14.00 for a bag of 1000. They only downside to this “miracle” distributer is the delivery is $8 flat to Sydney Metro and $12 flat to other parts of Australia. However they guarantee next day delivery, which I was quite excited about = D

    I ordered 2500 of the 11.1 diameter caps yesterday, I’m hoping to have the caps today.

    EDIT: I received them earlier today, 24 hour delivery for the win.

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