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    Post  Greydon Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:57 am

    Hey guys this is my first mod writeup. This IS what the write up is about.

    PHASE ONE: AR REMOVAL!
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    The Nerf Elite Retaliator. Here is another Blaster Pic.

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    The Accessories
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    The Clip of 12 Awesome points!
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    The Internals
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    First, off this is a direct plunger system meaning that white piece you see, is the plunger tube. The orange piece sticking out of it is the Plunger rod. Look at the pic you will see that the breech is also located within the plunger. Kind of weird at first. Those two white pieces at the bottom are the locks.

    This write up is just the simple AR removal, and locks. This is just like the recon but smaller breech and a different set up. Going from reverse plunger to direct is a little weird. The Spring not seen in the picture rests on the orange PR. IT is weak, but we will get to that. First you need to remove the PT and breech set up. It is easy it slides out.

    First we are going to look at that pesky AR/peg. There it is see it? Sorry for the pic. I couldn't get it at the right spot.

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    "How do I remove it?" Asks the kid in the back row.

    "Simple", I say. "However you need to know that thing moves the length of the breech shaft and there is no way to grab it unless you have a longer set of needle nose. So what I did, is that I took a screwdriver and hammer and removed the peg by nailing it. (A laugh chuckles from the class. Mr. Greydon looks sternly at them.) Once you do that you will notice that the three prong AR piece is still there. I didn't have long enough needle nose pliers to get them out so I kept it in there. But look at it it creates a small hole.

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    That could be used for a better air flow. I kept it in there, because of my situation with the needle nose pliers. But class that is the simple AR Removal. I will get better Needle nose pliers and get that thing out of there. But here is the first write up of an Elite blaster. Hope you like. No! I didn't do a range test it is too hot here to try one. So don't ask.

    PHASE 1.5: COMPARISONS!

    Ok here are some more pictures that everyone asked me for. First of all a picture of a Recon and the Retaliator internal together.
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    You can see the differences.

    Now it is time for the breeches and boltsleds. The Boltsleds are the same, but the breeches are different. Top is the Retaliator and the Bottom is the Recon.
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    Small = better here. Usually we hear bigger is better.

    I was asked if it was like the nitefinder. Well here are two pictures the top one is the Nitefinder and the bottom is the Retaliator. These are the plunger tubes.
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    The Retaliator is a little shorter. Seems to be a decent seal. too. In order to get the Plunger rod out, you have to boil it or cut it at the orange piece at the end.

    Next up is the NF and Retaliator Plunger rods. The retaliator is a bit shorter length wise, but they are about the same size for the rest of the rod. I didn't do a caliper measurement because I don't have one. I did use a ruler though and they are the same.
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    Next up is the Catch mech. The white one is the Retaliator and the orange one is the recon. I did two pictures. The first one is the side by side, and the next one is the laying over shot. You can see the differences better.
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    Next Up is the Spring. The right is the stock retaliator, and the left is a stock NF spring.
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    RANGE TEST WITH STOCK INTERNAL MINUS AR COMING SOON. GOING TO TEST ALL THE STREAMLINES.

    PHASE 2: SPRING REPLACEMENT! COMING SOON!


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    Post  Rooksy Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:21 am

    Hey! This looks great, Could you please resize your pictures for us Otherwise, Thanks for this! This will be very helpful to us in the future!

    Thanks,
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    Post  AbyssHD Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:33 am

    Yes re-size the pictures please.. then we can see the full potential of this awesome blaster ^_^

    Amazed that you got one on your hands already..

    Well looking forward to the re-sizing of pictures,

    Cheers
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    Post  Greydon Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:39 am

    Sorry for the pics. The other sites I posted this on were right. Sorry again.
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    Post  littlebro05 Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:48 am

    Omfg a 12 dart clip! I want! Also could you update your avatar please. It just makes it easier to differentiate each member on this forum. Thanks man =).

    Awaiting to see a brass breech out of this or something haha.
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    Post  FrostCheif Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:45 pm

    And, if possible, Could you do some up close internals photo's? of both the parts, and differences in the shell structure?
    My clear recon plunger tube just burst, and i would like to place the Elite internals as a replacement.
    Thanks!

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    Post  Greydon Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:01 pm

    FrostCheif wrote:And, if possible, Could you do some up close internals photo's? of both the parts, and differences in the shell structure?
    My clear recon plunger tube just burst, and i would like to place the Elite internals as a replacement.
    Thanks!


    Sure will do. Been asked for pictures how they are similar and different and the PT in the retaliator as compared to the Nitefinder.
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    Post  FrostCheif Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:11 pm

    Thanks. NOW GET SNAPPING! >:)
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    Post  ZeusPwns Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:27 pm

    Wahhhhh a RETALIATOR!?!?!? Gimme!!
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    Post  Jeo Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:13 am

    They've appeared on shelves in the states already
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    Post  agentjonnyb Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:23 am

    Can't wait to get one of these bad boys! Thanks for the pics! The boltsled and trigger catch look the same as those in the recon, can you confirm?
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    Post  monk1junk1 Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:33 am

    Pumped for a firestrike, that is if they differ from a nitefinder in any way. Maybe our friends in the USA can shed some light?
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    Post  agentjonnyb Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:36 am

    monk1junk1 wrote:Pumped for a firestrike, that is if they differ from a nitefinder in any way. Maybe our friends in the USA can shed some light?

    When stuff starts showing up in my area (NY) I'll let you guys know, but I am on a very small budget, so for now I may only be able to pick up a Retaliator and experiment with it.
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    Post  Jeo Sun Jul 01, 2012 8:15 am

    monk1junk1 wrote:Pumped for a firestrike, that is if they differ from a nitefinder in any way. Maybe our friends in the USA can shed some light?

    There's been nothing on them yet except appearing on the box art of other blasters. Expect 6-12 months after the first three get released.
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    Post  Greydon Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:04 am

    UPDATE!

    Ok here are some more pictures that everyone asked me for. First of all a picture of a Recon and the Retaliator internal together.
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    You can see the differences.

    Now it is time for the breeches and boltsleds. The Boltsleds are the same, but the breeches are different. Top is the Retaliator and the Bottom is the Recon.
    Nerf Elite: Retaliator Mod TzgaY

    Small = better here. Usually we hear bigger is better.

    I was asked if it was like the nitefinder. Well here are two pictures the top one is the Nitefinder and the bottom is the Retaliator. These are the plunger tubes.
    Nerf Elite: Retaliator Mod FRGkn

    The Retaliator is a little shorter. Seems to be a decent seal. too. In order to get the Plunger rod out, you have to boil it or cut it at the orange piece at the end.

    Next up is the NF and Retaliator Plunger rods. The retaliator is a bit shorter length wise, but they are about the same size for the rest of the rod. I didn't do a caliper measurement because I don't have one. I did use a ruler though and they are the same.
    Nerf Elite: Retaliator Mod KidWE

    Next up is the Catch mech. The white one is the Retaliator and the orange one is the recon. I did two pictures. The first one is the side by side, and the next one is the laying over shot. You can see the differences better.
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    Next Up is the Spring. The right is the stock retaliator, and the left is a stock NF spring.
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    RANGE TEST WITH STOCK INTERNAL MINUS AR COMING SOON. GOING TO TEST ALL THE STREAMLINES.
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    Post  LostBoy Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:54 am

    Dat clip.
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    Post  agentjonnyb Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:16 am

    Greydon wrote:UPDATE!
    The Boltsleds are the same

    YES!! Now I am REALLY pumped to grab one as soon as they show up here, I'll slap either an OMW stage 2 or massacre sled, and 5k+ or 6k+ spring in after AR removal and see what kinda velocity and range we get...

    I am also curious, would you like to give a shot at assembling the Retaliator parts in a Recon shell to find any differences on the internal shell structure? I'm curious to see if I could adapt my Sonic Recon shell to take Eliteness...
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    Post  Greydon Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:27 am

    agentjonnyb wrote:
    Greydon wrote:UPDATE!
    The Boltsleds are the same

    YES!! Now I am REALLY pumped to grab one as soon as they show up here, I'll slap either an OMW stage 2 or massacre sled, and 5k+ or 6k+ spring in after AR removal and see what kinda velocity and range we get...

    I am also curious, would you like to give a shot at assembling the Retaliator parts in a Recon shell to find any differences on the internal shell structure? I'm curious to see if I could adapt my Sonic Recon shell to take Eliteness...

    Will do that second part tomorrow. However...you will have to add the steel plate in the back of the retaliator Stock attachment piece. To help with that idea.

    I am thinking about doing the same. The boltsled I will change out. I will try the OMW NF Spring, and maybe a 6kg spring.

    The only issue I see with a Spring replacement is that the plunger tube or the head would break. The plunger head has no screw in it so if it breaks you will be screwed unless you find other means to make one. Also, I would be hard strapped to try that. I have thought about the 5kg or 6kg springs myself, but due tot the price tag of this blaster I will try it in regards to breakage.
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    Post  agentjonnyb Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:15 am

    Greydon wrote:

    Will do that second part tomorrow. However...you will have to add the steel plate in the back of the retaliator Stock attachment piece. To help with that idea.

    I am thinking about doing the same. The boltsled I will change out. I will try the OMW NF Spring, and maybe a 6kg spring.

    The only issue I see with a Spring replacement is that the plunger tube or the head would break. The plunger head has no screw in it so if it breaks you will be screwed unless you find other means to make one. Also, I would be hard strapped to try that. I have thought about the 5kg or 6kg springs myself, but due tot the price tag of this blaster I will try it in regards to breakage.

    Ya, that's right, the 5k is probably the only safe one to go with (the 5k nitefinder 2x spring that is). I'll probably just leave it at that, especially if the parts can actaully all go into the Recon shell - one of mine is modded with a bolt handle fastened to the slider, which only works well with the 5k spring.
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    Post  Greydon Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:27 am

    agentjonnyb wrote:
    Greydon wrote:

    Will do that second part tomorrow. However...you will have to add the steel plate in the back of the retaliator Stock attachment piece. To help with that idea.

    I am thinking about doing the same. The boltsled I will change out. I will try the OMW NF Spring, and maybe a 6kg spring.

    The only issue I see with a Spring replacement is that the plunger tube or the head would break. The plunger head has no screw in it so if it breaks you will be screwed unless you find other means to make one. Also, I would be hard strapped to try that. I have thought about the 5kg or 6kg springs myself, but due tot the price tag of this blaster I will try it in regards to breakage.

    Ya, that's right, the 5k is probably the only safe one to go with (the 5k nitefinder 2x spring that is). I'll probably just leave it at that, especially if the parts can actaully all go into the Recon shell - one of mine is modded with a bolt handle fastened to the slider, which only works well with the 5k spring.

    Seems as if this blaster is actually only needing a few simple mods to really work well. Unlike most Recons!
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    Post  ShadowSniper Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:19 pm

    Where did you get the Retaliator?
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    Post  Jeo Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:17 pm

    Jeo wrote:They've appeared on shelves in the states already
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    Post  agentjonnyb Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:32 am

    Greydon wrote:
    Will do that second part tomorrow. However...you will have to add the steel plate in the back of the retaliator Stock attachment piece.

    You meant the idea of trying to place the Elite parts into a regular Recon shell, right? Just wanted to make sure that's what you meant. Hope it works well! Would love to be able to turn my Sonic Recon into an Elite-Massacre hybrid!

    Also, any way we could view the pics bigger? Maybe externally?
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    Post  RetfirDMX Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:31 am

    what about an OMW aluminum boltsled in the elite so you can pump a crazy spring power in it?
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    Post  MRGenie Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:19 pm

    RetfirDMX wrote:what about an OMW aluminum boltsled in the elite so you can pump a crazy spring power in it?
    Wouldnt mind seeing that in action! especially with a clear shell!


    Thanks,

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