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    Post  False on Sun Oct 09, 2011 7:13 am

    So I was looking at this and I thought it looked pretty cool, so I gave it a go. I used normal sized foam, not mongos. So basically bolo rounds are two darts attached by string so when fired at an object, it wraps around it. I apologize in advance for the poor quality of the photos and the write up in general...

    Side note: I made two of these, the first one used a short line (45cm) and it worked. But the second one (pictured in all photos except last two) I used a really long one designed to wrap around my whole body once or twice but it just tangled up when fired and didn't spread out, I'm working on it though...

    Things you will need:

    - Two halves of a OO Split Shot sinker
    - Two straws cut to size
    - Two halves of streamline sized foam
    - Two beads or buttons etc. I used some beads I found
    - I used fishing line because the other strings I found in the house were too weak and snapped upon impact.
    - Hot glue gun and glue


    Step 1:
    This is what you will need, minus the glue gun.

    By false_ at 2011-10-08
    The straw should be about this big, just enough room for the sinker half.

    By false_ at 2011-10-08

    Step 2:
    Put some hot glue around the end of the straw and twist it into the foam (so the glue spreads around). Do the same to the other peice of foam too.

    By false_ at 2011-10-08

    Step 3:
    Thread one end of the fishing line through the bead and tie it off. Then thread the line through one dart and let it sit like this:

    By false_ at 2011-10-08

    Step 4:
    Dab a little hot glue into the hole and place the half sinker onto it. Flat side up for a nice, flush surface.

    By false_ at 2011-10-08

    By false_ at 2011-10-08

    Step 5:
    Place another little blob of hot glue on top of the sinker and then pull down the bead.

    By false_ at 2011-10-08

    Step 6:
    Thread the other end of the line through the other foam piece, making sure that the end of the foam you first put the line thorough is indeed the bottom of the foam.

    By false_ at 2011-10-08

    Step 7:
    Now repeat steps 3, 4 and 5.

    Now you should have something like this:

    By false_ at 2011-10-08

    I fired the short one and it was pretty awesome:


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    Post  Joey on Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:23 am

    Wow that is pretty cool, I wonder what effect on ranges it would have. I can see one dart getting pushed by wind and then pulling the other one causing them to both fight out of control quite often.

    But if you could get it to be effective you would have a great shotgun shot with some decent spread.


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    Post  False on Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:48 am

    Yeah I'll have range tests up soon.

    I was even thinking about attaching three darts together, but I'm not sure how that would effect the rotational inertia.

    It is really fun to use and as I said, I made a massive one, but it would just come out tangled and wouldn't spread out. But I wad thinking with a more flexible material than fishing line it might work. Or even having two barrels together and putting a dart in each and having the line out the front so it doesn't tangle. Although that would create a little bit of dead space it might be worth a try...
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    Post  mister_elliott on Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:36 am

    Great, now we just need someone to make dragon's breath rounds lol.

    Side note on shotgun loads, you can get massive spreads at the expense of range by loading darts backwards.
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    Post  False on Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:17 am

    So I did some tests with the big Bolo round which is about 75cm in length.

    It fired around 50ft with my TitMav which gets 280ft with normal, heavy silis.

    My brother fired it at me (which is strange as usually it's the other way around...) and it successfully wrapped around my torso. Luckily I was standing still at the time, haha.
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    Post  Joey on Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:35 pm

    False wrote:So I did some tests with the big Bolo round which is about 75cm in length.

    It fired around 50ft with my TitMav which gets 280ft with normal, heavy silis.

    My brother fired it at me (which is strange as usually it's the other way around...) and it successfully wrapped around my torso. Luckily I was standing still at the time, haha.

    Not to bad a range considering the spread, I wonder if we can push it further with lets say a multi barrel launcher or something. Quite interested in this actually, might adapt something for if I ever get around to building a master key for my LS.


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    Post  littlebro05 on Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:41 pm

    I was like Bolo Round? What was that! Now I remember. Pretty cool actually... wonder what would happen if you hit someone in the neck though o.O.

    Gotta add this to the directory.
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    Post  False on Mon Oct 10, 2011 11:07 pm

    I don't think it would wrap around someone's neck with enough momentum to choke them, well, at least not with the weights I'm using and with the large one.

    It would be cool to see a gametype in which you had to try and capture someone or something similiar. Although the shooter of the Bolo rounds would have to be pretty careful and a good aim.


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    Post  littlebro05 on Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:20 am

    Shoot them in the legs so they trip over. Aren't bolo rounds also used in 'real life' when it hit's the person, it goes and shred their insides as well?
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    Post  dandaldaks on Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:37 am

    Emomentummentum
    lol
    ^ Are you refering to the velocity is insuffice to do damage to any thing via the loss of momentum via the increased air resistance via the 2 flailing darts.
    I would say we need a test dummy lol, time to don the good old ballistics gel.

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    Post  mister_elliott on Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:45 pm

    Bolo rounds are currently fired from shotguns by crazy people (buckshot does a pretty good job of killing people without adding cable) and were fired in the past from cannons to tear up sails and rigging of naval vessels.

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    Post  oxymoron on Sun Oct 23, 2011 8:40 am

    I just had a go at making these myself but I just used hot glue on the ends rather than beads.

    I also only had some 1 size split shots and the 5mm plastic sinkers on hand. I made one from each with about 40mm of fishing line connecting them.

    To fire them I used my plugged Titan at 16 pumps with an 11" 16mm conduit barrel.

    The plastic sinkers were way too light I think because they barely made 30ft.

    The size 1 split shot one went about 60ft flat but I didn't get much of a spiraling motion like I was hoping. It definitely had a decent spread but I wouldn't guarantee I could wrap it round a pole from 50ft like yours did.

    I might try making the line between longer to see if it helps.

    How did you tuck all the fishing line into the barrel? I shoved it between the two darts and had both darts facing forward.


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    Post  False on Tue Oct 25, 2011 1:24 pm

    I made some videos today. It was on my iPod so I had to do the steps with just one hand, haha. (Also, my voice in real life doesn't actually sound like it does in the footage, haha!)

    Also, In the video, the round spins vertically in the air, I have no idea why it did that, it doesn't usually.

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    (EDIT: sorry, something screwed up, I'll upload the firing video tomorrow)
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    Post  Reaper on Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:01 pm

    If custom darts ever get allowed for HvZ, I can see this being a VERY effective way of taking out zombies if you're snap-shooting.

    I might have to give this a try...
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    Post  False on Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:35 pm

    Firing Video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RkfDkcM0Cc


    Also, For some reason, the round flies vertically through the air in the video, it doesn't normally do that...
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    Post  Psykka on Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:11 pm

    Interesting to see those in one of the twin barrelled classic guns like a switch shot. Those have a staggered firing and if you pull the trigger fast enough with on half of the dart in each barrel you should get a nice spinning motion.


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    Post  oxymoron on Wed Oct 26, 2011 1:50 pm

    After watching your vid False I tried again but this time I left a decent gap between the two darts like you did and it worked much better.

    Unfortunately, the range seems to max out at 60ft flat. Even with 20 pumps in my Titan meaning effective tripping range is much less again. I will try them at the next indoor war I'm hosting but I don't have very high hopes.


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    Post  False on Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:04 pm

    Psykka, is the switch shot a springer? If so, I'm not sure it would have enough power to propel one of these rounds very far.

    Oxy, I'm glad I could help. Maybe if there was a two barreled shot gun attachment with a dart in each, It might go a little further... Too bad I don't have any more petg :/
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    Post  Sadavi5 on Wed Oct 26, 2011 11:10 pm

    This is one of the coolest dart mods I've ever seen! Great job!
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    Post  Psykka on Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:32 am

    No it's an old airgun that fires megas.


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    Post  False on Thu Oct 27, 2011 11:39 am

    Thanks, Sadavi, although I didn't find it myself, haha.

    Psykka, that sounds pretty cool, I couldn't find anything on it when I googled it...

    I've heard of this old blaster that was really bad performance-wise but it had a single barrel and used a special sort of ammo. The Ammunition it used was like a dart split in two connected by string or something. So when you fired the two halves separated. Although it was a really bad blaster so not many people have them.

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