Longshot mods

Hi all,

I've modded my longshot by removing the AR and bolt lock and replacing the stock spring with the c 836 spring from bunnings and padding the end of the plunger with some foam camping mat.

How do I reinforce the catch spring? If there is a specific spring I should be getting, where can I get my hands on it?

Also, am I safe from the bolt sled breaking if I keep to just these mods?

Robin wrote:

Also, am I safe from the bolt sled breaking if I keep to just these mods?

HELL NO!!
By doing all those mods, your boltsleds life span has decreased in a gigantic way.
If you did all these mods except for the extra spring it would be pretty safe but with a mega chunky spring like that it's definitely going to brake this year if you use it regularly.
I don't know were to get the reinforcing springs but I know you have to reinforce your boltsled. Cheers. Adam.

@Nerffirefight SHUT UP! You have no idea what you are talking about.

Your bolt sled should be fine it is the part which is least likely to break. I used a spring from my front gun for my catch spring but you could use pretty much any strong spring.

-Hamish

Dude I would know I've seen it happen countless times, If you use a spring like that its a risk.
You need to reinforce your boltsled or else it will crack and brake, Well with the mods you have done, just to stay in the risk free zone you should reinforce most things, especially the catch and catch spring.

Yes, but it needs little reinforcement. The boltsled won't break unless you have the stock spring and the c-836

-Hamish

Well as I said he shouldn't take the risk of not reinforcing it but its his gun so he can do what he wants.

Adam.

WoW. Anyway, the stock and c-836 should be fine. Don't add rediculous springs into it other wise you run the risk of it breaking.

That is the whole point of reinforcing it,
Dah, I had stock and cs38 in for a while but it was just to great a force.

All of you shuttup.


jeez kids these days acting like they know know how to mod longshots.

Don't use the stock and a 386. 386 with a weaker extender (3 coils off a night finder or Maverick spring, so it doesn't rattle) is fine but not the stock and that. You can only get so much performance out of the stock breech (effectively a 2" barrel, with the rest of it sapping range

Careful with padding the plunger head, too much and all of a sudden loading clips will become much more difficult, Also getting the gun to catch with a 386 can be a bitch, it just is not the right spring for a longshot application, too thick, not enough compression distance. And for all of you saying you just need to reinforce, my boltsleds are laminated aluminium and a damn lot stronger than ANY that you can make.

More springs is fine too a point, but it gets dumb when all you guys just keep trying to add THE most you can to get more range, when really you need to optimize the airflow as the LS is a terribly inefficient system.

The tollerances are very tight on a longshot. A change here will affect something there, so make sure you REALLY understand the system, or you're going to be left with a sub par longshot.

Aj

I just tested the range on my longshot and I definitely do not want any more range/power out of it.

I have only the c 386 spring, I tried both springs at the start and I thought it was just too ridiculous. I cut the padding down to size and though sometimes the clip can be a bit of a pain to get in, it's fine.

The catch seems okay now that I've aligned it properly with the normal spring.

Aj, given that the c 386 is the only spring I have on, do you think my longshot's bolt sled will be okay?

Yeah it should be ok, Just be gentle lol. Shotgun gripping it would be god as it distributes to force more evenly rather than all being on one side when you prime it from the priming bar.

also if you have just a 386 doesn't it rattle around?

Aj

It does rattle a little, but it doesn't bother me.
I had a bit of an 'oh s...' moment when I test fired it outside about 15 minutes ago after fixing the alignment of the catch spring.
The dart cleared my back fence and went into the neighbour's property :S

Definitely won't be shooting it inside or at anyone without any eyewear, lol.

Hmm, is there an alternative to shotgun gripping?
I really enjoy bolt action.

Thanks for the info Aj, I appreciate it.

the the 386 just seems a little odd as a LS spring...i'm still looking for a nice aftermarket spring for mine, but untill i find it i have combined the stock with a recon and i'm getting a fair distance with that combo, not great distances but better than with the stock alone

Stock and a stretched NF work ok too, but that gets around 60 ish. I tried a LS + BBB and wasn't impressed really. The 836 is definitely not the ideal spring, I too am searching for that zen, I have so many springs but most are too strong

Aj

i agree with AJ...stretched NF spings are a fairly good addition to a LS, stock rattle too much for me. i've read a lot of mod write ups for the LS where they used BBB springs with the stock, but i agree the only way one should use a LS+BBB spring togeather should be in a BBB singled

I'm thinking of modding my longshot, what should I do? and how would i reinforce the bolt sled?

only is your using some insane spring, if your using a stock nitefinder of a better option is a recon spring then it should be just fine

From my experience a NF + LS Spring shouldn't be enough to cause 'stress' on the boltsled. What you can do is laminate aluminium strips to make it more stronger.

I gotta say go the C-836 over an NF spring, ten feet is a lot more advantage than you might initially think in a war.

I have a C-836 with a bit of mav spring and it's really hard to prime. Weird.

CobraNerf wrote:I have a C-836 with a bit of mav spring and it's really hard to prime. Weird.

Tried that as Aj recommended and it just doesn't work, the diameter's are too different and I think Aj is a bit off here. Anyhow, I just use the stock plus C-836 with a bolt sled that is laminated in 0.5 mm thick Aluminium on the L-Joint (now that Aj did get very much right).

Or you could just use of my springs that I get from the UK. I used mine in the last war and it works great. Not too much stress on the boltsled, decent ranges at 60-70ft and it still makes that great Ptang! noise when the gun fires, not the wet fart noise when you fire it stock. Looks like I'll be ordering a whole ton more for others.

Winterstrike wrote:Or you could just use of my springs that I get from the UK. I used mine in the last war and it works great. Not too much stress on the boltsled, decent ranges at 60-70ft and it still makes that great Ptang! noise when the gun fires, not the wet fart noise when you fire it stock. Looks like I'll be ordering a whole ton more for others.

80 feet, dick is waved.

On a less 13 year oldish topic didn't you sell right out of those, to the point where you made a thread about it?

I did sell out and I couldn't be arsed getting more but then I had to mod my longshots and then AJ is asking for some more so yeah... Looks like I'm buying a whole lot more for Australian nerfers.

Winterstrike wrote:I did sell out and I couldn't be arsed getting more but then I had to mod my longshots and then AJ is asking for some more so yeah... Looks like I'm buying a whole lot more for Australian nerfers.

Do you know the load on them? And price?

-Aj- wrote:my boltsleds are laminated aluminium and a damn lot stronger than ANY that you can make.

Are you sure about that