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    Guide to barrel Materials

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    littlebro05
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  littlebro05 on Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:12 pm

    -Aj- wrote: PETG is a bad springer barrel material for informers foam, air gun ONLY. 17/32 brass is ok. Conduit (16mm) is the best so far, it's ID is the same as CPVC, I have some from America, they are virtually the same in ID and OD dimensions.
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    I'd like to contradict that statement. From my experiences the blue foam works very nicely in the PETG. It provides a very 'firm' fit and is perfect. It just depends how much you've air hot air dryer gun it. His PETG works really well in his old black FBR. But that's my experiences. Your's might be different Aj.
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  -Aj- on Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:23 pm

    I dont blow dry my darts, Informers foam is far to fragile and weak for me to ever consider using it without a straw reinforcement down the centre, and this is enough to make the dart perfectly straight. Personally I think the fit (unheated) is fantastic, as when you dont blow dry the darts you get THE best airgun fit ever in PETG, it is literally perfect, and then conduit is a much easier to work with material, I made a conduit breech that loads from n strike clips in about 20 minutes.

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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  SuperTastyfish on Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:20 am

    Could I nest aluminum? It's only a matter of easiness to get... And it's cheaper.
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  Hamish on Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:24 am

    SuperTastyfish wrote:Could I nest aluminum? It's only a matter of easiness to get... And it's cheaper.

    Yes thats the only way to get it in a coupler. Nest it in 15mm PVC it'll need a few layers of e-tape on end though.
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  Biggles on Thu Jul 15, 2010 5:48 am

    I remember when AJ described UPVC conduit as 'useless'.

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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  -Aj- on Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:10 am

    Biggles wrote:I remember when AJ described UPVC conduit as 'useless'.

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    that was 20mm, before I found 16mm lol 16mm makes the 20mm useful

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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  littlebro05 on Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:25 am

    -Aj- wrote:
    Biggles wrote:I remember when AJ described UPVC conduit as 'useless'.

    Biggles

    that was 20mm, before I found 16mm lol 16mm makes the 20mm useful

    Aj

    He's got that right. That stuff is useful as because I've made my Bow out of it :D. Hopefully I'll be able to bring it down to the Melbourne national war if it happens.
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  random guy on Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:51 am

    hi i need to know were i can get a barreling material to fit 13mm stefans in a store not online. and with that stuff that's 16mm and fits stock dart are the stock dart you are talking about streamlines or micros?

    thanks(i hope)
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  Biggles on Wed Jul 21, 2010 11:17 am

    I'd just like to point out that Tidge was infact the first known person to make use of conduit. you can see it here

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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  SuperTastyfish on Sat Jul 24, 2010 6:27 pm

    I hate asking questions but is inform3rs petg nestable in anything? I was thinking of using it for a bbbb with a coupler?
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  littlebro05 on Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:55 pm

    SuperTastyfish wrote:I hate asking questions but is inform3rs petg nestable in anything? I was thinking of using it for a bbbb with a coupler?

    Meh this is what the thread is for. PETG is nestable in 20mm Reinforced UPVC Conduit (It's orange pipe) and you can use it with 20mm Couplers and they work perfectly.
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  Primus1356 on Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:48 am

    Guest wrote:Material: UPVC 16mm
    Sold at: Mitre 10
    Description:
    It is sold at mitre 10 in 3 metre lengths. It Fits stock darts nice and clark rubber darts tight.
    Is this stuff good? Im making a couplered nf and im wondeering if this would fit any couplers at Miter 10.
    Sorry for the noobish question but is 16mm the OD?
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  R@w$o 4 on Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:49 am

    yes definitely the OD as you need 13-15mm for ID
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  Primus1356 on Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:56 am

    would it be good for clark rubber darts in a Couplered nf?
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  xthepivotkidx on Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:08 am

    First off I am a noob :S I would like to run off something:
    I recently bought some PETG and blue tube foam and found it isn't the best fit, I then purchased clark rubber 13mm FBR and found it a great fit in the PETG. Sadly when I hairdyred it for like 1 min to straighten it out all the darts shrunk and died Okay now the Q. If i hairdry the blue tube will it shrivel up or will it expand to make a perfect fit in PETG? Sorry for the long story :S
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  littlebro05 on Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:15 am

    xthepivotkidx wrote:First off I am a noob :S I would like to run off something:
    I recently bought some PETG and blue tube foam and found it isn't the best fit, I then purchased clark rubber 13mm FBR and found it a great fit in the PETG. Sadly when I hairdyred it for like 1 min to straighten it out all the darts shrunk and died Okay now the Q. If i hairdry the blue tube will it shrivel up or will it expand to make a perfect fit in PETG? Sorry for the long story :S

    I have no idea what you're talking about.. Inf0rm3r blue tube fits perfectly in my PETG. Also after 1minute when I hair dry them, they're still same Dimaetre.. that's why FBR is piece of shit.
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  xthepivotkidx on Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:21 am

    Okay thanks for the advice, also I would like to know what you use as a weight for the blue tube seeing as a ball bearing does not go in a hole well :S Am I going off topic?
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  littlebro05 on Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:27 am

    Probably you are.

    But you can still use ball bearings, you just put a tiny bit of hot glue in the tube first, put the BB in then dome it.
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  bulletproofvest on Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:27 am

    Which Crayola Textas?
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  Biggles on Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:45 am

    I'd just like to point out that [url=this place]http://www.towerhobbies.com/[/url] is an exellent source for brass. Simply search for 'brass tube', scroll down to the K&S section and find your prefered sise.

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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  Primus1356 on Thu Jul 29, 2010 1:51 pm

    Just got some stuff from miter 10. Its 20mm OD and 15mm ID. Will this fit clark rubber darts or do i need other pipe. If so where can i get that pipe.
    hate to ask the question.
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  Primus1356 on Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:13 pm

    how wide is the bunnigs aliminuim on the outside? i wanna nest it in 20mm OD and 15mm ID conduit that i got from mitre 10.
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  mavshot on Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:16 am

    I JUST PUT A ORDER IN FOR SOME PETG AND AM WONDERING WHEATHER I WOULD BE ABLE TO NEST THE PETG IN 15MM PVC THANKS
    ALSO WHICH BRASS SIZE BEST FITS CLARK RUBBER FBR STEFONS AND FINALY DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHERE I CAN GET UPVC ON THE NORTHEN BEACHS SYDNEY.
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  Reaper on Sat Jul 31, 2010 3:56 am

    Mmmmmmm... capslock...
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  inf0rm3r on Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:09 am

    PVC will nest in the Orange Conduit available at Mitre 10. I use this in breeches for my Big Blasts.
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  -Aj- on Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:33 am

    Primus1356 wrote:how wide is the bunnigs aliminuim on the outside? i wanna nest it in 20mm OD and 15mm ID conduit that i got from mitre 10.

    16mm OD. LIKE IT SAYS ON THE LABEL. Wont nest in 20mm grey, unless you get a batch that us under spec as far as wall thickness goes. In over 16m of grey 20mm I've only ever found one piece like this.

    mavshot wrote:I JUST PUT A ORDER IN FOR SOME PETG AND AM WONDERING WHEATHER I WOULD BE ABLE TO NEST THE PETG IN 15MM PVC THANKS
    ALSO WHICH BRASS SIZE BEST FITS CLARK RUBBER FBR STEFONS AND FINALY DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHERE I CAN GET UPVC ON THE NORTHEN BEACHS SYDNEY.

    How about dont write like a retard and maybe people will answer your questions

    inf0rm3r wrote:PVC will nest in the Orange Conduit available at Mitre 10. I use this in breeches for my Big Blasts.

    You mean PETG right?

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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  bulletproofvest on Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:43 pm

    How much does brass cost for converting a longshot's Barrel and Breach?
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  ShootEmUp on Sun Aug 01, 2010 12:48 pm

    bulletproofvest wrote:How much does brass cost for converting a longshot's Barrel and Breach?

    30-40 bucks, it depends on where you buy it.
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  Darth Lai on Sat Aug 07, 2010 3:13 pm

    I think I saw some 16 mm PVC at Bunnings the other day. And a 16 mm PVC coupler. Would that be good on a Nitefinder?
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  tank720 on Sat Aug 07, 2010 4:31 pm

    probably not too loose for dart try get some 16mm conduit that fits i have got some works very well in my couplered nightfinder
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  Darth Lai on Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:00 am

    Okay. You find that stuff in Bunnings right?
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  SuperTastyfish on Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:24 am

    It depends, will you be shooting stefans? Or CDDTs or stock darts? If you're planning on using stefans, buy 16mm aluminium and nest it in 15mm PVC and conduit comes from Mitre 10 And aluminium comes from bunnings. PVC you can get anywhere.
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  Darth Lai on Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:04 am

    Oh. I'm currently trying to find some 13 mm FBR and I've heard that you can get it from Mitre 10. So I'll probably be heading down there today to check it out and if the do have it, I'll be using 13 mm FBR stefans.
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  SuperTastyfish on Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:24 am

    Then definitely pick up some alu.
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    Re: Guide to barrel Materials

    Post  Darth Lai on Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:26 am

    Alrighty. Thanks mate.

    Just wanted to ask- what's a CDDT?

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