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    Post  Unknown Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:28 pm

    I had an idea to test the load of a spring combo using a length of PVC and some weights so I went about testing all the springs I had lying around. I found that most of my results sounded about right, the TS spring was roughly 5KG and my TS+LS+Recon combo was about 11KG. I also tested two NF springs, one 1st gen and one I bought today. The 1st gen spring had a load of (roughly) 2.5Kg while the new spring had a load of 3.75KG.

    My testing rig is pretty simple (Just putting weights onto the springs) and I have no maths behind my results so I'm certainly not saying these figures are correct but I'm interested to see if anyone else had something to add that I might have missed. The Longshot Spring which is commonly known to have a load of 2.5KG actually had a load of nearly 4KG. Again, I'm not sure that this is correct but all my others tests seemed to be accurate. I'd like to get my hands on a spring with a definite load to test my rig against but unfortunately I don't. (Maybe someone else can give it a shot?)

    I'm thinking I might have missed something resulting in these unusual results but I can't imagine what. Anyone got something to add?








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    Post  oznerfnerd Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:29 pm

    Actually,

    I'd say you're pretty much on the right track.

    While I don't claim to be a "springologist" I can offer a few points:

    One point often missed is at what stage of compression do they claim the load rating?

    ie, is a Longshot spring 14kgs when fully compressed to solid height (fully squashed) or when it reaches the compression length that it would reach when actually installed in a (cocked) longshot plunger tube?

    Are you supporting the spring with something (conduit, broomstick, etc) up the center?

    This would make it easier to load it up.

    I would say a standard LS spring is more likely to be 4 than 2.5 kg, but I have no research to back that up as I don't bother with standard springs.
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    Post  littlebro05 Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:58 pm

    That sounds interesting. Do you have any 'apparatus' picture for this?
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    Post  Unknown Tue Dec 13, 2011 6:29 am

    Here's just a few pictures, please excuse the terrible quality.

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    Stock Longshot with 3.75KG

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    Stock TS with 6.25KG

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    Gen 1 and new NF spring

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    Gen 1 NF spring with 2.5KG

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    New NF spring with 3.75KG


    Interestingly, it turns out that the new Nf springs are actually better than the Gen 1's.
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    Post  Dietzie Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:23 am

    I actually have a notebook somewhere with load test ratings at 1/2, 3/4 and solid as well as all other specs on each spring. My rig was just the bathroom scales and my hand.
    If I can find said notebook I'll post my results
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    Post  clunk07 Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:43 pm

    Some nice work there Unknown.

    And, some pretty inventive thinking. Keep it up!!

    Cheers,
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    Post  chiiia Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:07 am

    Yeah, I always thought the new NF springs were quite beefy.

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